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October 9, 2012 at 2:32 am #156140cruel_fortunaParticipant
The black case contained the following that I could see.
8 bottles minus 1 which is given to David/Charming with non-interference clause given as payment
( 3 on the left, 2 on the left/bottom compartment & 2 left on the right. )
Total of 7 left.1 drawstring satchel contents – unknown.
1 Notebook ( book? ) with a sun symbol embossed on it’s cover. *see image below*
( Sorry for the poor quality screen-cap. )
I did a bit of research & found the symbol could mean one of the following, perhaps:
A) The alcehmical sign for aurum ( gold ) / reference
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B ) An American-Indian ideogram for the Sun / reference
[adrotate group="5"]October 10, 2012 at 4:12 pm #156283youfoundmeParticipantWow great research! My guess it is the first one (gold).
October 10, 2012 at 9:31 pm #156306merryleeplayingParticipant@cruel_fortuna wrote:
The black case contained the following that I could see.
drawstring satchel contents – unknown.1 Notebook ( book? ) with a sun symbol embossed on it’s cover. *see image below*
( Sorry for the poor quality screen-cap. )
I did a bit of research & found the symbol could mean one of the following, perhaps:
A) The alcehmical sign for aurum ( gold ) / reference
or
B ) An American-Indian ideogram for the Sun / referenceoooo. What if it was both? Something belonging to Mr Gold or something for his “sOn” (as a homophone for sun). Everything he has been doing revolved around getting Bae back.
October 10, 2012 at 9:37 pm #156307merryleeplayingParticipant@slurpeez108 wrote:
there was a black tote bag which Mr. Gold was stuffing full of maps of New England, Maine, New York, and Massachusetts (suggesting he was going on a road trip to find Baelfire).
Glad to see someone commenting on those maps. I thought the same thing. I also noticed the camera angle on the globe was straight on North & South America. Other times it was different. Don’t know if that meant anything this time or other times.
October 11, 2012 at 5:25 pm #156360antbeeParticipant@MerryLeeplaying wrote:
@cruel_fortuna wrote:
The black case contained the following that I could see.
drawstring satchel contents – unknown.1 Notebook ( book? ) with a sun symbol embossed on it’s cover. *see image below*
( Sorry for the poor quality screen-cap. )
I did a bit of research & found the symbol could mean one of the following, perhaps:
A) The alcehmical sign for aurum ( gold ) / reference
or
B ) An American-Indian ideogram for the Sun / referenceoooo. What if it was both? Something belonging to Mr Gold or something for his “sOn” (as a homophone for sun). Everything he has been doing revolved around getting Bae back.
Thanks for the research, cruel fortuna. I like the idea of it being a homophone on the word son because he’s Gold son, and everything has revolved around finding Bae.
It also reminded me of the days when I use to be into the Harry Potter fandom and study about Alchemy to see how it could relate to the plots of the last 3 books.
Right now Rumple is at the black stage, but perhaps his name is a hint that by the end of the series, he’ll actually have reached the gold stage.
http://spirit-alembic.com/alchemy.html
Tetramorphic Progression: the Four Stages
Once ANY Nature has been contacted by use of Alchemical forces, there begins a Four-Stage “Evolutionary Process” that leads in fixed steps to whatever ‘goal’ one has set-out to attain. These Four Stages are represented as THE ‘ASCENDING SCALE OF ALCHEMICAL COLORS.’ While it may seem improbable to the inexperienced mind, each Alchemically-triggered Evolutionary Phase actually DOES produce some manifestation of the color of that Phase of Alchemy. The Four Color-Phases are (in sequential order:)
BLACK: ‘Massa Confusa’
In this initial Stage, the ‘subject’ seems both confused and vague; disorder is the keynote, and one may wonder if any good could come of this! Patient observation soon reveals an emerging ‘Product’ though it is quite primitive and only slowly does it move toward your goal.
WHITE: ‘Purifactio’
In this second Stage, the emerging product enters a rather extreme period of ‘purging;’ it sheds the confusion and vagueness of it’s origins.. but may seem to have completely missed the intended direction of evolution! Further patience reveals that this Stage has further solidified the Product as a “workable nucleus” which can later be turned into a more desirable direction of growth.
RED: ‘Fulminato’
Now in this third Stage the Alchemy becomes quite apparent; the formerly rather distorted Product now begins to show clear signs that it is moving in the desired direction of growth. Patience is less needed now than is CAUTION; the Alchemy here can be sometimes quite ‘explosive’ and fast-paced! At times, one may feel that it is all getting QUITE out of hand!, and then suddenly..
GOLD: ‘Magnum Opus’
The Product solidifies into a FUNCTIONING or ‘living’ REALITY that fulfills the goal intended (and usually quite a bit MORE than ever expected!) One may be tempted to think the work ‘done’ when it attains this Stage; but it may still need to ‘cool’ or temper into final form over a brief period of functional use. Sudden ‘proofs’ of the final Product’s desirability emerge, to inform the Alchemist that his Great Work has been attained.
Any deliberate use of this Four-Stage Color Symbolization (even as simple a use as dressing oneself in the four colors sequentially!,) can trigger Alchemical results, though (naturally) only on a minor level unless the Creative Forces of Causal Geometry are also employed. Many people find Color-Alchemy sufficient for their self-transformations. But, should you wish a more detailed description of the complex process of Spiritual Alchemy as performed in our tradition, we recommend you study The Shining Tree Self-Work-Book..
October 13, 2012 at 2:48 am #156496hmverhagenParticipantI also noticed that certian areas of the maps he had where circled. Maybe he found some magic hotspots and thinks Bae crossed over in one of them.
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