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April 29, 2012 at 11:35 pm #144665charmingParticipant
The Blue Fairy was called the original power, not ultimate bad nor good. Right side means neither good nor bad side, it is a matter of perception. She has helped everyone she’s encountered so far whether they liked what the result was or not the choice was the right one good or bad. She does have an ulterior motive yes but again it will be for the right side; good or bad. There was nothing sneaky about her and if sneaky means not trusting Rumple/ Gold then yes she is sneaky because he is a snake and cannot be trusted unless you have a deal with him.
[adrotate group="5"]April 30, 2012 at 9:30 am #144756surayyaParticipantI think BF is working for the good of FTL – NOT anyone person as not anyone person is more important than an entire world. She doesnt lie from what we’ve seen – Gep had her by the (figurative) balls so to speak- he was needed to make the wardrobe in-order to have a chance at saving FTL & for him to do that BF HAD to agree to let Pinno take a spot (GRRRRRRRRR SHAME on them both, they knew better grrrrrrr – but I digress – so back on topic now….), she made pointed remarks about choice while looking at gep & then told Gep up front the truth of the matter before having to go do what ever fairies do before curses hit lol :p
April 30, 2012 at 9:45 pm #144903theoniongirlParticipantI’m still thinking about my theory that she’s working a long con. Turning Pinocchio human … putting Gepetto in the position to know what’s going to Pinocchio when the curse is enacted … then leaving him there to tell Snow White to go through the wardrobe instead of doing it herself …
Did anyone else find it odd that she so blatantly left Gepetto to tell SW when she knew how he felt about it?
The question is, what would she get out of that? Pinocchio in our world and Emma effectively left on her own? (Because even if Pinocchio/August stayed with her, I’m not sure how much he could do as a 7-year-old within the foster care system. They probably wouldn’t have stayed together long one way or another.)
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-- Dylan ThomasApril 30, 2012 at 9:51 pm #144904surayyaParticipantSee Im think what is so important- was maybe the book, maybe it was meant go/find SW to help with Emma being the curse breaker or something 🙂
April 30, 2012 at 11:21 pm #144919charmingParticipant@TheOnionGirl wrote:
I’m still thinking about my theory that she’s working a long con. Turning Pinocchio human … putting Gepetto in the position to know what’s going to Pinocchio when the curse is enacted … then leaving him there to tell Snow White to go through the wardrobe instead of doing it herself …
Did anyone else find it odd that she so blatantly left Gepetto to tell SW when she knew how he felt about it?
The question is, what would she get out of that? Pinocchio in our world and Emma effectively left on her own? (Because even if Pinocchio/August stayed with her, I’m not sure how much he could do as a 7-year-old within the foster care system. They probably wouldn’t have stayed together long one way or another.)
Yes, it was it was odd. She felt it to be very important and was extorted into letting Pinnochio go. If it was really important then BF should have told Snow herself. If you want someting done right you do it yourself. Then again sonehow someway it was kind of understood that Snow would never leave Charming nor vice versa and besides it can aloso be Pinnochio’s last ultimate test to be fully human. Afterall he is turning back into wood now.
May 7, 2012 at 3:37 pm #145812arjay369ParticipantOkay, so I just recently joined the ONCE forum a week ago, so thought the Blue Fairy was really a source of good, pure and simple. But after reading everyone’s thoughts, rewatching ‘The Return’ and doing some research on the character, I’m inclined to side with those who theorize that the BF is doing what she thinks is right, regardless if it is seen as good or bad.
First, in episode 1.19, when Rumpelstiltskin is listing ways to try to find Bae and poses “A curse?”, the BF states “Of course you would think of a curse instead of a blessing. Your magic is limited by its own rotten core, Rumplestiltskin.”
IMO, the BF is making a statement on more than just Rumpel’s character. For some reason, her hesitation after his saying “A curse?” and the quality and tone of voice in her answer makes me think what is really meant by her statement is ‘Of course you would think of it as a curse instead of a blessing.’
This makes me think, as others do, that the BF is really behind everything. As someone who thinks she is doing the “right” thing, perhaps she has been around so long she thinks magic is not such a good thing to be used anymore. Maybe she thinks mortals rely on it too much or abuse it’s power.
Also, at the beginning of that same scene, Rumpel questions the BF on how he can follow Bae. The BF states “You had the way, you didn’t take it.” And then in, what appeared to me, a voice both disgusted and antagonistic, she adds “And there are no more magic beans!” Rumpel says “That’s a lie.” BF says “We don’t do that.” Rumpel again says “That’s a lie.”
I think Rumpel is telling the truth. Looking back at the original ‘Pinocchio’ story, The Fairy with Turquoise Hair (aka The Blue Fairy), lies often. In the story, BF first poses as a young girl living in a house in the forest. When Pinocchio is chased by the Fox and the Cat and seeks aid from anyone inside the house; the girl (BF) states everyone inside is dead including herself and she is awaiting her coffin. After Pinocchio had learned who the BF really was, he leaves on an adventure and later returns to the house where he finds a tombstone supposedly marking the BF’s grave. Pinocchio goes to an island where he meets an older woman who once again turns out to be the BF in disquise. After uncovering the deception, the BF promises to turn Pinocchio into a real boy as long as he earns it through ‘hard study’ and ‘obedience’. At the end of the tale, Pinocchio is told the BF is ill and needed money which Pinocchio gives.
The BF can also have a meanstreak (or is at least a bit of a sadist) as when she tried to get Pinocchio to take medicine and he refused, she summons a group of coffin-bearing rabbits. Or when she summoned a group of woodpeckers to shorten his nose after he lied. Or when she summoned a school of fish to peck away at Pinocchio’s donkey body until he became a puppet again.
It seems to me, the BF is lying and will do whatever she needs to teach people (as in the story) or achieve the “right” result.
May 7, 2012 at 11:59 pm #145888charmingParticipantIf I am not correct they never said the Blue Fairy was on the good side but the right side. What is the right side because for all we know it could be the bad side while the wrong side maybe the good side.
May 8, 2012 at 12:33 am #145896arjay369Participant@charming wrote:
If I am not correct they never said the Blue Fairy was on the good side but the right side. What is the right side because for all we know it could be the bad side while the wrong side maybe the good side.
Agreed. Right and wrong are subjective concepts, almost like personal opinions. Good and bad are more along the lines of moral/ethical behavior.
May 13, 2012 at 12:57 pm #146507hjbauParticipantI honestly don’t see much difference between right and wrong verses good and bad. I would think that most people consider both of those things moral and ethical discussions and most people would consider them subjective. Though i don’t really think it is subjective though i do think that it is difficult to figure out at times what is right verses wrong in certain situations. I just don’t think we should over think her saying the word right.
May 13, 2012 at 4:51 pm #146539arjay369Participant@hjbau wrote:
I honestly don’t see much difference between right and wrong verses good and bad. I would think that most people consider both of those things moral and ethical discussions and most people would consider them subjective. Though i don’t really think it is subjective though i do think that it is difficult to figure out at times what is right verses wrong in certain situations. I just don’t think we should over think her saying the word right.
Easy way to remember the difference:
Good/Bad – choices, opinions, actions which are made by/for an individual
Right/Wrong – choices, opinions, actions which are usually made on behalf of a group usually by a group but sometimes an individual
When a person says they are on the right side, they do not care of anyone else’s view of good or bad, because they are concerned with the group, not the individual. So when the Blue Fairy says she is on the right side, she is saying she would do what would benefit (or be right for) the people as a whole, not individually.
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