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May 13, 2012 at 6:21 am #146483hjbauParticipant
I am confused. Stop Rumpel from doing what? From doing the curse? How?
I think that by the time that the Blue Fairy learned about the magical tree Regina already had the curse and it was too late.
[adrotate group="5"]May 13, 2012 at 12:34 pm #146503charmingParticipantIt was the Blue Fairy’s fault that Rumple was too much of a coward to jump in the vortex and follow Bae. The choice was his to make and chose not to but regrets it after the fact. The BF did not force the decision on Rumple but he did it on his own, nor did she intend on separating Bae from Rumple. The plan was simply to have Bae use the bean and take Rumple to a land without magic, so they can be together.
May 13, 2012 at 12:45 pm #146504PriceofMagicParticipantWhy didn’t the Blue Fairy go with Baelfire after their little chat and explain to Rumpel the solution she offered Baelfire and then leave them to dicuss it. Instead she went behind Rumpel’s back and gave his child an extreme choice. Baelfire was desperate and the Blue Fairy kind of took advantage of that because getting rid of the dark one would be beneficial to her. She likes to make out she’s all goodness and light but I don’t think she is.
All magic comes with a price!
Keeper of FelixMay 13, 2012 at 7:05 pm #146550riddleravenParticipant@PriceofMagic wrote:
Why didn’t the Blue Fairy go with Baelfire after their little chat and explain to Rumpel the solution she offered Baelfire and then leave them to dicuss it? Instead she went behind Rumpel’s back and gave his child an extreme choice. Baelfire was desperate and the Blue Fairy kind of took advantage of that because getting rid of the dark one would be beneficial to her. She likes to make out she’s all goodness and light but I don’t think she is.
EXACTLY. If someone gave my child something like that without asking me I would be ticked off at them, just like he was! The best analogy I can make is giving a kid a plane/bus/train ticket across the country. Sure, maybe it’s for him AND his dad but you can’t REALLY know what the kid will do with that ticket. She is the adult and she should’ve known to make the deal with another adult–Bae’s guardian, not Bae himself. The deal was definitely made behind his back and if not for her INTERFERENCE Bae would still be there. That’s a fact.
It would all be different if Bae was in trouble and he needed protection from or specifically to get away from his father but that’s not what was needed or what anyone wanted that bean for.
The BF seemed like she was willing to help Rumple at first. But then he got mad and she insulted him and he got madder so she left. Well, fine. Maybe I would’ve left too. But I wouldn’t have washed my hands of the whole situation like she did. She could’ve told people what he was threatening/planning to do and asked for help in finding a different way for him to get to Bae or at least in stopping him from making that curse.
Maybe I wouldn’t be so frustrated with her if she would come right out and say that she’s neutral. But she’s supposedly good and people trust her! She’s MOTHER SUPERIOR in SB, for goodness sake! So I hate how she acts! She’s a bad fairy godmother! She should be better than this. Separating sons and fathers, parents and daughter, and lovers too, ALL OVER THE PLACE!!!
Seriously, she’s got quite a rap sheet:
- Separated Rumple and Baelfire
- Separated Nova and Grumpy
- Separated Geppetto and Pinnochio
- Separated Emma and parents (Snow/Charming)
She only purposefully separated Nova and Grumpy. She hadn’t planned to separate the others. Yet that’s what keeps happening! She could’ve avoided separating any of them if she’d acted differently…
May 13, 2012 at 8:09 pm #146557obisgirlParticipant@Riddleraven wrote:
Seriously, she’s got quite a rap sheet:
- Separated Rumple and Baelfire
- Separated Nova and Grumpy
- Separated Geppetto and Pinnochio
- Separated Emma and parents (Snow/Charming)
I agree with you about the BF. I don’t trust her. But as far as Geppetto and Pinocchio were concerned though, Geppetto made the decision after the BF told him that Snow White was going into labor early to send Pinnochio to the other world anyway.
May 13, 2012 at 10:03 pm #146572riddleravenParticipantI know, Geppetto chose that. But she was involved and it was another instance of separation that I put there for completeness. And not stopping them from separating is specifically what lead to Emma and parents having to separate.
May 13, 2012 at 10:14 pm #146576charmingParticipantLook ultimately like Rumple says there is a choice just make the right one. He didn’t that’s why he tells everyone before they make deals with him that. He did not and is paying for it. It was his choice to not follow Bae. He was like Bae said a coward and still is, if he were not then he’d up front and help Emma to defeat Regina if that his goal. He isn’t offeing anything unless they come to him. I think he is a coward and will be so until he can come to terms with whateve he has done.
May 14, 2012 at 3:00 pm #146689riddleravenParticipantMaybe Belle can help him with that. 🙂
May 18, 2012 at 11:07 pm #147284darcyfarrowParticipantIt’s the classic situation of man railing against the gods. Makes for great literature! Rumple and Geppetto are in company with Oedipus, Milton’s Lucifer, a whole slew of others. The gods–and the Blue Fairy–do not explain themselves, they just mess with mortals’ heads. So you either take Alexander Pope’s point of view (“presume not God to scan/The proper study of mankind is man”) or you choose to rule in Hades rather than serve in heaven.
May 19, 2012 at 1:41 pm #147316killianhookfanParticipantI also get the feeling that the Blue Fairy is up to no good because Morraine said that she was the “Original Power” and some of her actions have been questionable to me. It seems like she might actually be another party in the power struggle between Rumple and Regina – like maybe because she was the Original Power she doesn’t like that anyone else has power.
But I also agree with hjbau that at the end of the day we might find out that Bae was better off without his father and ended up living a nice, normal life – something he couldn’t do with Rumple around. Based upon what happened at the end of the season finale (even though I DO think that Rumple primarily THINKS he wants his power/magic back to find Bae) who’s to say that even if Rumple had gone with Bae through the vortex that he would have been happy with a life without power/magic with Bae after he had had a taste of a life WITH power and magic? I think it would have been hard for Rumple to go back to living a “normal” life at that point in time because he hadn’t learned anything about himself yet – he only knew of himself as a coward or as a being who became powerful via a curse. I actually think he would have been really messed up as a person and as a father if he had gone through the vortex with Bae at that time even though he regretted NOT going through after Bae went through without him.
I think the only hope for Rumple living WITHOUT magic is for him to be redeemed and to understand that he isn’t a coward and to understand that he has power on his own WITHOUT a curse. But that will require him to make smart decisions and sacrifices for other people as well as for himself, and to stop making everything about him all the time. He needs to understand that being powerful doesn’t necessarily mean controlling people but being in control of yourself.
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