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The Camelot Love Triangle

Home › Forums › Once Upon a Time › Season Five › 5×04 “The Broken Kingdom” › The Camelot Love Triangle

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  • October 18, 2015 at 9:04 pm #310201
    RumplesGirl
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    Arthurian mythology is well known for a few things, one of the biggest being the love story between Lancelot, Guinevere, and Arthur. OUAT, as it is wont to do, put its own twist on it. Arthur seems to love Excalibur and his “destiny” more, while Guinevere and Lancelot never gave in to temptation. And then Arthur magicked Guinevere into staying with him.

    What do you think of the Camelot love story twist?

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    "He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
    October 18, 2015 at 9:36 pm #310215
    Keb
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    I knew it had to come and this time it’s part of the story so that much, I’m cool with. However there were two really problematic ways about how it played out:

    –Putting the initial blame on Arthur’s “neglect” of Gwen. It’s trite, storytelling-wise, but it’s also problematic as it removes responsibility from the cheating parties.

    –This was, I hope, intentionally creepy, but Gwen’s transformation under the sand’s effect was problematic in exactly the same way, only reversed and with abusive overtones.

    By themselves, they’re only a little bit iffy, but when you add it to the show’s attitudes about cheating in general (it’s hot when OQ cheats on Marian? We’re not going to pull out the rape word when Zelena fakes being Marian on Robin? It’s okay that Snow and Charming cheated on each other because they were cursed? And Katherine was a victim but Whale gets slugged? Not even touching Belle + Will since they didn’t explain 9/10s of what they were doing with that anyway)…well, it gets to be a problematic world view of what they’re actually portraying. Yes, relationships are messy, good people make mistakes, but the real problem is how the show assigns responsibility for those mistakes.

    They really, really need to leave cheating/rapey situations alone if they cannot handle their ramifications better.

    Keeper of Belle's Gold magic, sand dollar, cloaks, purple FTL outfit, spell scroll, library key, copy of Romeo and Juliet, and cry-muffling pillow, Rumple's doll, overcoat, and strength, and The Timeline. My spreadsheet: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6r8CySCCWd9R0RUNm4xR3RhMEU/view?usp=sharing

    October 18, 2015 at 9:39 pm #310218
    RumplesGirl
    Keymaster

    Arthur roofied Guinevere into loving him and staying with him.

     

    The worst part? I’m not even surprised that the show went there. After Graham, Zelena/Robin, and some other instances that I won’t touch in order to save the fandom from fighting…of course they add ONE MORE instance of consent issues. It’s not funny. It’s not entertaining. And they need to stop.

    "He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
    October 23, 2015 at 3:58 am #310681
    swanning-off
    Participant

    As a storyline, I liked that nothing happened between G + L, but A assumed the worst.

    The Sands of Avalon Roofy Dust make G’s current devotion to A make sense, but are also creepy. But think about this: I think we were SUPPOSED to find it epicly creepy. We’re supposed to see the rape/lack of consent/abusive overtones. It reinforces that Arthur cannot be trusted.

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