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December 21, 2013 at 2:20 pm #233073
CaptainEala
ParticipantI wrote a meta on the winter finale. Mostly about the last scenes
and going forward with CSEnjoyable read 🙂 a;jdfkaldsjf is it March yet???
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December 21, 2013 at 3:59 pm #233079CaptainEala
ParticipantLol – this is one of the most ridiculous arguments I’ve seen yet on that onceuponatime confessions thing:
I just saw this response from buttercupsandhooks haha:
Oh. Okay. So what was Neal’s reaction to Emma not showing up for their date? What does Neal think about the fact that Emma and Hook kissed? Did he ever TALK to Emma about that? Or about what SHE might feel in regards to Hook? Or did he just go ahead and assume that because he was back, that was all that mattered? Have we seen a single private moment with Hook and Emma, where Neal’s reaction is showcased? (Spoiler: the answer is no.) Where as EVERY “private” moment between Neal and Emma, we’ve gotten a reaction shot from Hook.
Also, while we’re on the subject, how many times, when BOTH Neal and Hook were in the scene, did Emma turn to NEAL for his advice on a subject? NEAL suggested going to Dark Hollow, but who did Emma ask about it? It wasn’t Neal.
When Neal and Hook were BOTH ATTACKED BY SHADOWS in the Hollow — Emma shouted for Hook. Neal shouted out HER name, and she looked at him, but she TURNED BACK TO HOOK.
And … remind me, but who got the ROMANTIC goodbye scene in “Going Home”? WHEN BOTH MEN WERE PRESENT. Neal got a very platonic goodbye, Hook got the wavery voice, holding back tears, and the one little word that meant THERE WAS A CHANCE FOR THEM.
Also, you know, explain the ENTIRETY of the bonding on Tallahassee. (This is canon and confirmed, SHE LEFT HIM BECAUSE SHE WAS AFRAID OF HOW CLOSE THEY WERE GETTING). She knew Neal was still alive. There was nothing “separating” them from each other, except for themselves, and she was STILL getting cozy with Hook, knowing Neal still existed.
You may want to go back and give the show a rewatch. Just saying. Because it’s pretty clear that ST isn’t gonna happen if Hook is still in the picture.
Keeper of Captain Swan's first kiss
December 21, 2013 at 7:02 pm #233098emmajones
ParticipantLol – this is one of the most ridiculous arguments I’ve seen yet on that onceuponatime confessions thing:
I just saw this response from buttercupsandhooks haha:
Oh. Okay. So what was Neal’s reaction to Emma not showing up for their date? What does Neal think about the fact that Emma and Hook kissed? Did he ever TALK to Emma about that? Or about what SHE might feel in regards to Hook? Or did he just go ahead and assume that because he was back, that was all that mattered? Have we seen a single private moment with Hook and Emma, where Neal’s reaction is showcased? (Spoiler: the answer is no.) Where as EVERY “private” moment between Neal and Emma, we’ve gotten a reaction shot from Hook. Also, while we’re on the subject, how many times, when BOTH Neal and Hook were in the scene, did Emma turn to NEAL for his advice on a subject? NEAL suggested going to Dark Hollow, but who did Emma ask about it? It wasn’t Neal. When Neal and Hook were BOTH ATTACKED BY SHADOWS in the Hollow — Emma shouted for Hook. Neal shouted out HER name, and she looked at him, but she TURNED BACK TO HOOK. And … remind me, but who got the ROMANTIC goodbye scene in “Going Home”? WHEN BOTH MEN WERE PRESENT. Neal got a very platonic goodbye, Hook got the wavery voice, holding back tears, and the one little word that meant THERE WAS A CHANCE FOR THEM. Also, you know, explain the ENTIRETY of the bonding on Tallahassee. (This is canon and confirmed, SHE LEFT HIM BECAUSE SHE WAS AFRAID OF HOW CLOSE THEY WERE GETTING). She knew Neal was still alive. There was nothing “separating” them from each other, except for themselves, and she was STILL getting cozy with Hook, knowing Neal still existed. You may want to go back and give the show a rewatch. Just saying. Because it’s pretty clear that ST isn’t gonna happen if Hook is still in the picture.
To buttercupsandhooks: Here, have a cookie and a medal. you deserve it!
I love her answeres LOL
December 21, 2013 at 9:20 pm #233121surayya
ParticipantOh. Okay. So what was Neal’s reaction to Emma not showing up for their date? What does Neal think about the fact that Emma and Hook kissed? Did he ever TALK to Emma about that? Or about what SHE might feel in regards to Hook? Or did he just go ahead and assume that because he was back, that was all that mattered? Have we seen a single private moment with Hook and Emma, where Neal’s reaction is showcased? (Spoiler: the answer is no.) Where as EVERY “private” moment between Neal and Emma, we’ve gotten a reaction shot from Hook. Also, while we’re on the subject, how many times, when BOTH Neal and Hook were in the scene, did Emma turn to NEAL for his advice on a subject? NEAL suggested going to Dark Hollow, but who did Emma ask about it? It wasn’t Neal. When Neal and Hook were BOTH ATTACKED BY SHADOWS in the Hollow — Emma shouted for Hook. Neal shouted out HER name, and she looked at him, but she TURNED BACK TO HOOK. And … remind me, but who got the ROMANTIC goodbye scene in “Going Home”? WHEN BOTH MEN WERE PRESENT. Neal got a very platonic goodbye, Hook got the wavery voice, holding back tears, and the one little word that meant THERE WAS A CHANCE FOR THEM. Also, you know, explain the ENTIRETY of the bonding on Tallahassee. (This is canon and confirmed, SHE LEFT HIM BECAUSE SHE WAS AFRAID OF HOW CLOSE THEY WERE GETTING). She knew Neal was still alive. There was nothing “separating” them from each other, except for themselves, and she was STILL getting cozy with Hook, knowing Neal still existed. You may want to go back and give the show a rewatch. Just saying. Because it’s pretty clear that ST isn’t gonna happen if Hook is still in the picture.
Have to say I agree with buttercupsandhooks 😉
December 21, 2013 at 9:33 pm #233127MysteryKat25
ParticipantJust found this on tumblr. OUAT: A Christmas Story. Enjoy! http://cryinodonoghue.tumblr.com/post/70740882921/ouat-a-christmas-story
Keeper of Hook's Trenchcoat.
December 22, 2013 at 1:51 am #233171sweetgrass
ParticipantHere is very interesting essay on the various depictions of Captain Hook and how Killian Jones is far more similar to Barrie’s Hook than what Disney and others came up with. It’s a great read.
http://www.onceuponafans.com/hook-a-return-to-romance
also I found this in the Disney Wikipedia: http://disney.wikia.com/wiki/Captain_Hook
it is very fascinating, especially the character description because it almost sounds like OUAT Rumple in his penchant for finding loopholes in deals.
Keeper of Hook and Emma's smoldering first kiss, a certain Pirate's sauciness, the Evil Queen's snarkiness, Grumpy's gruffness and a drop of true love to make it all go down smooth.
December 22, 2013 at 2:39 am #233173MysteryKat25
Participant@sweetgrass – Interesting. Thanks for sharing! I’ve always loved the fact that Walt Disney decided that he would be too likable to kill off at the end like so many other villains in the classic Disney movies. Then it came back up with the NealFire Pan theories with the triangle (we were only off 2 generations…it’s in his blood…lol!) that Hook was traditionally someone who made Wendy realize that staying young forever wasn’t all it was cracked up to be and wanting a more mature relationship and helping her choose to go home instead of staying in NL, never to grow up and experience the world the way she was meant to. Always interesting to see the source material and how he’s changed over the years. There have been many compelling actors who have played Hook but this is DEFINITELY not any of those versions! I swear, the men these shows make me love… lol. It’s on my list of original things to read but haven’t gotten around to it yet. I haven’t touched any of the traditional Pan stories since falling for Hook so that should be interesting after watching Once!
Keeper of Hook's Trenchcoat.
December 22, 2013 at 7:17 am #233178CaptainEala
ParticipantJust found this on tumblr. OUAT: A Christmas Story. Enjoy! http://cryinodonoghue.tumblr.com/post/70740882921/ouat-a-christmas-story
Ooooh, thanks for sharing!!! My favourite part is:
Keeper of Captain Swan's first kiss
December 22, 2013 at 7:22 am #233179CaptainEala
ParticipantHere is very interesting essay on the various depictions of Captain Hook and how Killian Jones is far more similar to Barrie’s Hook than what Disney and others came up with. It’s a great read. http://www.onceuponafans.com/hook-a-return-to-romance
I was banging on about this at some stage a couple of months ago lol! This essay is much better than what I wrote though 🙂 The Captain Hook in Barrie’s novel is much less about his rivalry with Pan and more about his own demons.
I also like the point the essay makes about Wendy being Emma – which I was also banging on about. Hook is Killian, Wendy is Emma, and Pan is Neal, in terms of the “triangle”.
Great read, thanks!
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December 22, 2013 at 7:29 am #233180CaptainEala
ParticipantLol – only 1 week into the hiatus and already this kind of thing is going on!!!!! 🙂 I worry for our sanity.
Exclusive footage of Hook looking for Emma in NYC.
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