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Oh crud I totally forgot about it! Will pop over to vote now- it’s a shame we lost a ship
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I swear, there is a psychology behind why we are attracted to certain ‘ships vs. others. If I were still a student and I needed to write a thesis, I would write it on the backgrounds of ‘shippers and what ‘ships we ‘ship and why.
But from what I know of most of you all, we come from varied backgrounds, married folks, step-families etcs, blended families. And look at what we ‘ship, the ‘ship we love that is slowly blossoming before our eyes, a blended family. That cannot be a coincidence.
Anyway, just wanted to drop by and say hello.
@obisgirl I was just thinking the same thing.
I am also puzzled about the way some people are annoyed that it sounds as if Hook will be bonding with Henry considering that the kid is related in someway to the entire town so tossing another “relative” into the bunch isn’t like it’s suddenly going to traumatized him or diminish the fact that he has actual biological parents. And the people who tend to be the most vocal about disliking that a Hook is bonding with Henry also tend to be the ones that love that Emma and Regina have been working together to paren Henry. So I don’t see how it’s just fine that Henry has two mothers that love him but he can only have one father figure. These same people also love the idea of Outlaw Queen which means that Henry is going to get a step-father on a THAT side of the family tree as well. So really we all know that it just comes down to the fact that it is their hatred of Hook they have a problem with.
And yes, as a divorced mom who has remarried whose husband is now raising my son as his own I can tell you that when kids figure out what happened in a divorce it does change the dynamic of the parent-child relationship. It doesn’t destroy it, but it does change it. So I do think there is going to be a difference in the relationship that Henry would have with Neal. But to be realistic we need to keep in mind just how much time Henry has actually known about Neal being his father and has spent with him. SF folks would have believe that Henry’s dying wish is for his biological parents to get back together so he can be a family with them. I just don’t know that I believe that. At the end of 3A Henry expressed regret that he even went and searched for Emma because if he hadn’t and had just believed that Regina did love him he wouldn’t have to be separated from Regina. I thought it was interesting when he was speaking to Regina at that point that he called Emma “Emma” and Regina his “Mom.” At the end of the day Henry was still raised by Regina and Emma and Neal are still just the birth parents that he found and has spent very little time with. Just like Emma found Snow and Charming but in reality that didn’t change the fact that she was an orphan.
So now Henry will have had a year with Emma alone to bond with her and a lifetime of false memories with her, but he will still only have a very limited time with Neal. I still don’t see anywhere in either scenario (pre or post memory loss) where Henry has any incentive or desire to want his biological parents to get back together so he can live with them as a family. Maybe at the very beginning of the show when he still thought Regina was the evil Queen he might have THOUGHT that was what he wanted but I seriously doubt that is what he wants now. I don’t know why anyone who understands that Henry loves Regina could even think that’s what he wants.
I think even when Henry gets his memory back he is going to still want what he said he wanted for Emma in NYC – for her to be happy. But I also think he is going to be protective of his mom just like any boy that age is (and I speak from experience here) when it comes to an “ex” situation. They don’t like that someone did something to hurt their mom – even if it is their dad, even if they still WANT to have a relationship with their dad. There are some things that are just off limits and hurting mom, even emotionally is one of them. So knowing that the reason his mom has trust issues and difficulty with relationships is because of Neal is going to be a problem for Henry. He isn’t going to want to see his mom hurt again. And for kids of divorce, they learn VERY quickly that actions speak louder than words. So when Henry finds out what really happened and that he had multiple chances to come back and get his mom but didn’t, that isn’t going to make him happy. Plus he is going to see Hook there being the kind of guy his mom needs and I think he will be helping his mom see that Hook is the right choice.
What do they mean by that way of thinking…. that no child can be happy nor love their step father, because they dont have the capacity of feel love for more than 1 male/father figure in their lives or something????
That is a great point… same thing about adoptions – because the child is not your blood you cannot feel love for them as if they were. That is just ignorant people not really thinking it through. …
So true, and if anybody thought that you can’t love an adopted parent or child, or that biology has anything to do with how much someone can love an additional parental figure, I would love an opportunity for my personal experience to set somebody straight on that soon as possible.
I’d gladly step in front of a moving bus for my foster daughter if I had to, and while I love my Dad, my Step-Father has been more of a Daddy to me than my own Dad ever was. I really hope nobody would ever think biology has anything to do with one’s capacity to love. If it does, then shame on them.
Sorry to comment on that folks, I may have taken stuff off-topic with it, but it’s a hot-button where I’m concerned. Far as Captain Swan goes, it’s one reason I am so for CS. Neal is great, but a Step-Father can be every bit as wonderful as a biological Daddy. I hope the show takes that into consideration.
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I think us old folks and moms are CS because of our life experience…look at how many of us agree on blended families…
Haha, also my 3 year old loves Jake on Disney jr and Hook is his favorite character…he saw a picture of Colin as. Hook and told me he needs the real Hook’s hat. It’s a bonding experience!
I think Henry knowing the full history between his parents is important for CS because Emma will not be able to use him as an excuse to justify ignoring her feelings for Hook. Like with Walsh, I think Henry will gently prod her to do what makes her happy. I am really looking forward to Henry/Hook bonding time and seeing how that impacts how Emma sees Hook.
As to the whole anti-stepfather thing I think that is misguided. Being with (or marrying someone) just because you have a child together ultimately ends up hurting everybody involved if you don’t truly want to be with that person. Children are very perceptive and are impacted by the tension. I think it is interesting though the theory on ships. My husband ships swanfire mostly because “it makes sense” and “Emma should be with her child’s father.” My husband comes from a very perfect 50’s TV type family whereas my family is dysfunctional and my parents are divorced. I am sure it doesn’t apply to everyone because these things never do but something interesting to think about.
Hey Shipmates! We’re in a major battle so we’re gonna need a lot of support this round against Destiel! You can vote here as much as you want just refresh
Yep, my theory on why the older crew tend to be CS shippers is because we are farther away from our teenage first loves and realize how much we have changed in the years since we dated our first loves. So the concept of Emma getting back together with Neal is literally something we see her going “back” to. We have probably dated more and had more relationships and/or married since those first loves and are able to see that first loves are just that, “first” loves – not necessarily what is best for you, not what is necessarily your best option, and not necessarily who your true love will be.
I also think that parents are drawn more to CS because we look at what happened to Emma from both an individual as well as a parenting perspective. Individually, we can look back and see some mistakes we made as teenagers that we cringe at as adults. But as parents we look at the things Emma was doing with Neal and the situation she was left in and say that she was emotionally scared from that experience but has come a long way – why take the chance on the same thing happening again. As parents we don’t look at Neal and say it is excusable that he left her in prison pregnant because he didn’t know and thought he was doing the best thing for her. We don’t look at him and say it is ok that he didn’t come back when he found out the curse was broken because he was worried about what she would think about him. As parents we don’t say it is acceptable that he remained engaged to Tamara when Emma found him again even though he said he still loved her and wants to fight for her. As parents we say none of those things add up to anybody who is worthy of my child – and I wouldn’t do anything to encourage her to think otherwise. Because of that I don’t see a reason for an adult woman (keep in mind Emma is almost 30) to go “back” to this person she was with for a brief time when she was 17 as opposed to seeing who is out there that IS worthy of her.
Well said @rumplegoldfan. I’m glad that we’re all on the same page.
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