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Well, personally i don’t think that there should ever be a big original evil that is opposite good. Evil is always a corruption of good. That is why the Black Fairy should have been a very old power, back before all this began, she should have been Blue’s sister, she should have been the first magical creature that was corrupted by their desire for power and that was when evil entered the world and created that desert that the Enchanted Forest was later born from.
I have never really liked the Evil isn’t born, it’s made line. Not because i disagree with that, but because the problem is that even if someone isn’t born evil and they are instead taught to be evil through circumstance and upbringing, they still, in fact, are in the present day evil.
The idea that everyone should forgive Regina just because she used to be a sad, lonely girl, with an abusive mother and a useless father whose true love was murdered by her mother in front of her is crazy because those facts don’t actually change that fact that she is a mass murdering psychopath who should be locked up. I know she has “changed” and i love the Regina they have now, but the writers somehow missed the idea that someone who is made evil is in fact still evil. Sad stories or not Regina, Rumpel, Zelena, and Hook are still villains that should be locked up for the rest of their lives.
And if they aren’t going to do that, if they aren’t going to lock them up for the rest of their lives then they have to work so hard to get them from the psychotic mass murderer character to the sit down at the diner at the end of the day character that they like to pretend they are now. It is why the show doesn’t work. Yeah, evil not being born, but made is a nice catch phrase, but the type of people they wrote the villains of this show to be should never be trusted again. They went to far.
[adrotate group="5"]GUYS. WHAT IF BABY SNOWFLAKE IS THE VILLAIN?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!!?!?!
I WANT THIS!!!!! Wasn’t Emma born with the potential to be the greatest darkness ever, due to her being a child of true love, what if the same thing was possible for Baby Snowflake, only his darkness wasn’t placed anywhere else!!! Evil Baby Snowflake!!!!
"If you go as far as you can see...you will then see enough to go even further." - Finn Balor
The only problem here is the same one if the darkness was Regina and Robin’s. That that would mean the darkness would be like, a child or a teenager. Henry is like, what, 16? Lets say hes 28 for sure. Then the darkness is 12….. :/
Also I keep rewatching the scene of when the darkness crashes through the door. It’s definitely shrinking and taking the shape of a person. I cant find an HD vid to make a gif of but here it is:
"I could have the giant duck as my steed!" --Daniel Radcliffe
Keeper Of Tamara's Taser , Jafar's Staff, Kitsis’s Glasses , Ariel’s Tail, Dopey's Hat , Peter Pan’s Shadow, Outfit, & Pied Cloak,Red Queen's Castle, White Rabbit's Power To World Hop, Zelena's BroomStick, & ALL MAGICI agree it’s something that’s becoming the shape of a person. This seems fairly personal for Henry and I’m starting to wonder if it’s Lucy’s mother. After all, where is *she* during all this–especially if this is a flashforward as some think
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"I agree it’s something that’s becoming the shape of a person. This seems fairly personal for Henry and I’m starting to wonder if it’s Lucy’s mother. After all, where is *she* during all this–especially if this is a flashforward as some think
But the thing is in the next scene doesn’t Tiger Lily say she’s going to take Lucy to her mother or something like that?
"I could have the giant duck as my steed!" --Daniel Radcliffe
Keeper Of Tamara's Taser , Jafar's Staff, Kitsis’s Glasses , Ariel’s Tail, Dopey's Hat , Peter Pan’s Shadow, Outfit, & Pied Cloak,Red Queen's Castle, White Rabbit's Power To World Hop, Zelena's BroomStick, & ALL MAGICI agree it’s something that’s becoming the shape of a person. This seems fairly personal for Henry and I’m starting to wonder if it’s Lucy’s mother. After all, where is *she* during all this–especially if this is a flashforward as some think
But the thing is in the next scene doesn’t Tiger Lily say she’s going to take Lucy to her mother or something like that?
Oh maybe? I honestly don’t remember. But that doesn’t mean the “thing” can’t be Lucy’s mother. It actually feels sorta OUAT-ish to have Lucy’s mom be the thing that’s out to destroy the EF, ect. Surprise! You’re mom is actually a dangerous dark entity.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"I just got interrupted from watching the beginning but something I noticed was that when Henry woke Lucy up he didn’t say “it found us” or “he/she found us”. He said “they found us”.
So the darkness is a they, or a force/minion/agent of some group, not just one individual. Interesting……
"I could have the giant duck as my steed!" --Daniel Radcliffe
Keeper Of Tamara's Taser , Jafar's Staff, Kitsis’s Glasses , Ariel’s Tail, Dopey's Hat , Peter Pan’s Shadow, Outfit, & Pied Cloak,Red Queen's Castle, White Rabbit's Power To World Hop, Zelena's BroomStick, & ALL MAGICI agree it’s something that’s becoming the shape of a person. This seems fairly personal for Henry and I’m starting to wonder if it’s Lucy’s mother. After all, where is *she* during all this–especially if this is a flashforward as some think
But the thing is in the next scene doesn’t Tiger Lily say she’s going to take Lucy to her mother or something like that?
Oh maybe? I honestly don’t remember. But that doesn’t mean the “thing” can’t be Lucy’s mother. It actually feels sorta OUAT-ish to have Lucy’s mom be the thing that’s out to destroy the EF, ect. Surprise! You’re mom is actually a dangerous dark entity.
Can they not? Can Lucy’s mother just be a new hero? Can they just introduce a new hero, already? I have had enough of the villains and that is all we have left now.
Can they not? Can Lucy’s mother just be a new hero? Can they just introduce a new hero, already? I have had enough of the villains and that is all we have left now.
Ehh, I think the villains are always the best on this show. I think she’s gonna be the good girl gone bad who they have to get to turn good again. That really all this show does is redeem villains into heroes and twist heroes into villains just to turn them back into heroes.
Lucy’s mother has to be something surprising and big, so I think she’s definitely the villain and a big part of the story will be about how she became that way, because as we all know, evil isn’t born its made.
Maybe Lucy is really Shady!Lucy and she is the bad guy….."I could have the giant duck as my steed!" --Daniel Radcliffe
Keeper Of Tamara's Taser , Jafar's Staff, Kitsis’s Glasses , Ariel’s Tail, Dopey's Hat , Peter Pan’s Shadow, Outfit, & Pied Cloak,Red Queen's Castle, White Rabbit's Power To World Hop, Zelena's BroomStick, & ALL MAGICI don’t think the villains are the best characters on this show. They are the worst written and most inconsistent characters on the show and cause plot and character inconsistencies in other characters. I, also, think that making Henry date a villain is more of the same with all the hero and villain couples on this show. Also, i think they need to have a female heroine on this show because they just lost all of their main female protagonists and now have way too many male characters.
I think right now more likely then not Lucy’s mother is the villain; i just think that is boring and repetitive and will not be interesting. Especially if they are going to waste half a season trying to “surprise” us with that information.
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