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Of course, it’s possible that Rumple took the wand back from the fairy (who got it from Robin after he stole it) but in my opinion it would make more sense for the events in Price of Gold to take place during a time period of around 3 years (and it would also simplify an already complicated timeline). That would mean that Rumple killed the FGM, made the deal with Ella and took the wand with him to the DC. Briefly after that, Belle came to him and the events of Lacey take place. I think I read somewhere that Adam Horowitz stated that Snow was 2 weeks pregnant during Ella and Thomas’ wedding, placing it around 9 months before the curse.
[adrotate group="5"]Charming was at the wedding. The wedding clearly happens post-taking-back-the-kingdoms, and I firmly believe it’s also after Charming and Snow’s public wedding (though maybe just after the honeymoon).
However, a royal wedding could presumably take some time to happen. And it’s possible that Thomas had to hunt a bit for his bride (as per the Cinderella tale) first.
true, maybe while he hunts for Cinderella, Ana’s mother tries to push her and her sister on the prince…? all these things could have happened during a few years, so that when they finally DO marry, Snow and Charming already were settled.
7:15 takes place at least a month after Snow first meets Charming, possibly a bit more. I have to look back at my notes. However, that means that Rumple could be in one of the angrier stages of grief over losing Belle when he gives the potion to Snow–we know it’s after Belle leaves at any rate because Grumpy.
Yes, there’s a costume change issue with the timing and Regina for Ariel, but…it still fits. I think it works. It’s just really, really tight.
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Rumple’s attitude towards love doesn’t necessarily correlate with Belle being gone. He could either be aware that he loves her but thinks that she could never love him (we know that he has serious self-loathing issues) or he just wanted to manipulate Snow into taking his potion so he can retrieve a hair of her for his TL potion…
Well, we know full well that his meeting with Snow was post-Belle, because she meets Grumpy the next day. And Belle met Dreamy, who wasn’t Grumpy just yet, after she left the Dark Castle.
The only reason it matters is if moving his acquisition of the wand earlier conflicts with these more established facts.
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which brings up a very good question: how long in between belle meeting dreamy and grumpy meeting snow? i think we have evidence for how long but i forget. lets assume that the youguai (i cant spell that word) adventure takes at least a week if not two.
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Why assume that?
Interesting evidence to consider, though: We saw Grumpy decide against pursuing Nova in “Dreamy,” but when he’s first talking to Snow, he mentions he’s in George’s cell for buying a stolen diamond for the girl he loves.
So THAT might be relevant timeline wise.
I wanted to give the Yaoguai adventure a fair amount of time, but the time she’s actually with Mulan is not really that long. So most of the time would be travel time–yet in the time she’s with Mulan, the guys she ticked off manage to get to Regina and Regina manages to find her in the woods. So I don’t think it’s more than about a week total.
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So in light of 321/322…
Does this theory hold water?
It majorly affects the timeline of a lot of events if so.
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In 321 we see Belle being (quite comfortably) with Rumple at the time of 103, when Snow and Charming first met. If we forget about the wand for a second, and simply focus on Belle’s timeline, this does seem to fit (even if it’s slightly awkward):
By 220 Belle is already with Rumple, though it’s still new (I think he called her a “new maid”, though I could be remembering that wrong. Either way I got the impression that he hadn’t had Belle for very long.) 220 is also where Rumple tells Regina to bankrupt George’s kingdom. By 106, and thus 103 which follows directly afterwards, the kingdoms is bankrupt, which suggests some time has passed, simultaneously allowing Belle to reach the level of comfort she is at in 321. (She seems to have been there for a while and gotten used to it all by then.)
I’m assuming she left Rumple quite shortly after this, though, in order to have time to meet Dreamy before Grumpy ends up in the cell with Snow (which should be roughly a month or two after 103).
Now, bringing in the wand into all of this is where it gets complicated, obviously. It gets stolen by Robin in 219, which is taking place not long after Belle arrived at the Dark Castle, possibly around the same time as 220. In 220 George’s kingdom hadn’t actually started going bankrupt yet, which is where they are at in 106 when Rumple gets the info about the fairy godmother from George.
Of course, it’s possible that 219 is actually a bit later than 220, but it still can’t be taking place after 106, since in 106/103 Belle has clearly been at the castle longer than she had in 219 (as seen in 321, which takes place at the same time as 103) (god, this is getting confusing).
Basically, I see two solutions:
a) Cinderella’s fairy godmother is the original owner of the wand Robin stole (putting the beginning of 104 before 219), but not the fairy godmother that George tells Rumple about (as she is already dead by the time of 106)
b) she is the fairy godmother from George, which means it’s taking place after 219 and is therefore not the same wand, or the wand after Robin has returned it to the fairies.
If option a is true then that leaves the question of what did he want the second fairy godmother for? One possibility is that he simply needed a new wand, since Robin stole his old one. Actually this is probably true either way, since if option b is right then we quite clearly see him getting a second one (or getting the first one back) after Robin took the first one.
Ultimately, as far as I can tell, there is just no way for the sequence of events to have gone: 1. talking to George, 2. killing ella’s fairy, 3. Robin stealing the wand – simply because in any version of events, according to Belle’s timeline, Robin stole the wand before the George thing, regardless of when the killing of the fairy took place.
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