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October 5, 2015 at 2:14 pm #309244MatthewPaulModerator
A few people here said that the Fury looked a lot like Ryuk from the anime “Death Note.” Well, Ryuk is a shinigami, which in short are the Grim Reapers in Japanese mythology. The Fury was literally trying to have Robin Hood sent to the Underworld. So perhaps someone at OUAT is a Death Note fan, and the resemblance was intentional.
[adrotate group="5"]October 5, 2015 at 4:30 pm #309258RumplesGirlKeymasterA few people here said that the Fury looked a lot like Ryuk from the anime “Death Note.” Well, Ryuk is a shinigami, which in short are the Grim Reapers in Japanese mythology. The Fury was literally trying to have Robin Hood sent to the Underworld. So perhaps someone at OUAT is a Death Note fan, and the resemblance was intentional.
Possibly! The resemblance is there. The depiction does line up with some Greek myths of the Furies that have them as black bodied, winged and red-eyed.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"October 5, 2015 at 4:59 pm #309270PriceofMagicParticipantI am putting in another vote for an Underworld rescue for 5B with Hades at the villain helm. with regards to cast could they just get James Woods for Hades in Once, I can’t see anyone else pulling him off properly.
I’m sure I read somewhere that James Woods had so much fun playing Hades that he put it into his contract that he gets to play Hades in any future appearances.
All magic comes with a price!
Keeper of FelixOctober 5, 2015 at 5:12 pm #309271MatthewPaulModeratorI’m sure I read somewhere that James Woods had so much fun playing Hades that he put it into his contract that he gets to play Hades in any future appearances.
If by some miracle they were able to get James Woods to reprise his role, that could be a good ploy to get ratings back up a little again. James Woods has actually done a lot of TV roles, including voicing Hades again for the Hercules animated TV series. He would also be the first Disney actor to reprise his role on OUAT.
October 5, 2015 at 6:12 pm #309279nevermoreParticipantImma join you in the stupid corner, because it made no sense to me either. Last week the bit with Regina getting the wand back wasn’t explained in any logical way, and this week it was the hand holding that made the Fury for bye bye for some unexplained reason. Wish they’d put a bit more effort into making their big resolutions of the bad thing actually make sense.
I’ll join the stupid corner too. The fury to me seems unnecessary in the sense that I don’t quite understand what links the fury as depicted on OUAT with Charon and the Underworld or Hades for that matter. Unless I’ve totally forgotten my Greek mythology, aren’t Furies/Erinyes agents of justice, of sorts? As in, they judge and punish wrong-doers for their wrong-doings? Unless, that is, by Fury we mean Harpy, and Robin Hood has done some bad juju himself, and got snatched as a result. It just makes no sense that the Fury would be collecting a debt that Regina incurred by using magic. Furies are not, as far as I know, in the business of delivering souls to the underworld. Playing with the mythology is one thing, but this just seems a little random.
I agree that they’re heavily foreshadowing Hades – and actually, I look forward to this. I just hope that they don’t make him into a one-dimensional villain or have him be the origin of the Dark One curse somehow. The trickery with Persephone and pomegranate seeds aside, dude gets such a bad rep for no good reason. Sure, it’s an unfortunate gig he’s got, but someone’s gotta do it.
Considering that there’s been a lot of pop-culture Hades lately (all the Titans stuff, Lost Girl, Olympus), I wouldn’t be at all surprised if OUAT jumped on that particular bandwagon, Disney aside. They’re strategic that way. *cough cough* Frozen *cough*
October 5, 2015 at 7:16 pm #309286RumplesGirlKeymasterUnless I’ve totally forgotten my Greek mythology, aren’t Furies/Erinyes agents of justice, of sorts?
Yes. But I think the writers might be pulling from the Illiad, broadly at least, when it states that the Erinyes are “those who beneath the earth punish whosoever has sworn a false oath.” You swear that you’ll pay the price (like Regina unintentionally does by asking Emma to save Robin) but it’s a false one because you never intended to pay the price.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"October 5, 2015 at 7:50 pm #309290nevermoreParticipantUnless I’ve totally forgotten my Greek mythology, aren’t Furies/Erinyes agents of justice, of sorts?
Yes. But I think the writers might be pulling from the Illiad, broadly at least, when it states that the Erinyes are “those who beneath the earth punish whosoever has sworn a false oath.” You swear that you’ll pay the price (like Regina unintentionally does by asking Emma to save Robin) but it’s a false one because you never intended to pay the price.
Yes I wondered this too. The problem is that Regina was the oathbreaker, not Robin. And if we are going to be specific, the actual oathbreaker is Emma for failing to mention that there is a price to her magic. Which is odd. Looked like light magic to me though it could just be healing magic. I vaguely recall Rumple healing someone at one point though can’t recall if there was a price.
October 5, 2015 at 7:55 pm #309291RumplesGirlKeymasterThe problem is that Regina was the oathbreaker, not Robin. And if we are going to be specific, the actual oathbreaker is Emma for failing to mention that there is a price to her magic.
Yeah….I think (gosh, THINK) that Regina’s price is losing love again. She does say to Emma, I lost love once I won’t do it again. So her price for saving Robin is that she loses him again.
Looked like light magic to me though it could just be healing magic. I vaguely recall Rumple healing someone at one point though can’t recall if there was a price.
It was light magic. I posted a screen shot…somewhere. *hunts*
However, when Rumple healed Bae in S1 and Belle in S2, it was purple magic.
ETA: there was no price. I guess? I don’t know. They made this whole thing up this season.
I mean…PLOT
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"October 5, 2015 at 9:15 pm #309297nevermoreParticipantIt was light magic. I posted a screen shot…somewhere. *hunts*
Aha, thank you. Ok, so… light magic incurs a price? I’m confused. Lets assume that since Emma’s now DO, all of her magic is in fact dark, and comes with a price. So maybe despite the “white magic” CGI, she still used dark magic and hence got a little bit scaly — so that’s one kind of price (that is, a bit of her humanity since evil on this show correlates with skin conditions). Or did she go scaly because he enjoyed using the dark magic?
On the other hand, one could interpret it as if Emma is the one who payed the price for Regina — whereas it really should have been Regina who payed the price for healing Robin with her own life or life essence or something. {It seems like Tutorial Rumple said as much} But then why on earth did the Fury need to come collect?
October 5, 2015 at 9:22 pm #309298RumplesGirlKeymasterOk, so… light magic incurs a price?
In which case there are a heck of a lot of people who owe some prices. Is it just using light magic or is it using light magic for your own endgame?
Or did she go scaly because he enjoyed using the dark magic?
This is how I read the scaly portion of the episode. It was “tasty” and it was the first step to giving into the Darkness.
But then why on earth did the Fury need to come collect
I don’t want to yell PLOT but…
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