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The Heart of the Truest Believer-Scene Breakdown

Home › Forums › Once Upon a Time › Season Three › 3×01 “The Heart of the Truest Believer” › The Heart of the Truest Believer-Scene Breakdown

  • This topic has 40 replies, 15 voices, and was last updated 11 years, 9 months ago by kfchimera.
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  • August 15, 2013 at 3:50 pm #205087
    kfchimera
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    The way he rolls his eyes as he does the hand gesture also suggests present day, like he remembers Neal mocking it.

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    “If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass

    August 15, 2013 at 4:08 pm #205093
    WickedRegal
    Participant

    It might be present day because Rumple never knew about Bae being in Neverland because he was so focused on getting to the “Land Without Magic”. If he knew Bae was in NL, then why would he have Regina cast the curse to bring them to SB? But as for magic, I think Rumple and Regina will still have their magic because NL is like the place for all magic. Now for Peter Pan, I am completely convinced that he is Rumples big brother, who ran away because he thought their parents loved Rumple more than him. I belive their more equal in power, but the gang are in Pan’s territory where he has his army. This is almost like six americans going up against Al Queada, they are greatly outnumbered; they have the best people on the team, but they just don’t like each other.

    Emma, David, Snow vs. Regina, Hook, Rumple vs. Peter Pan, Lost Boys, Mermaids

    This is going to be the best season so far because all hell’s about to break loose in Neverland.

    "If you go as far as you can see...you will then see enough to go even further." - Finn Balor

    August 15, 2013 at 4:36 pm #205105
    PriceofMagic
    Participant

    I don’t think the doll originated in Neverland and I don’t think it was taken there by Bae or Rumple.

    All magic comes with a price!

    Keeper of Felix
    August 15, 2013 at 4:49 pm #205106
    kpercyman
    Participant

    I have to say that the Rumple and PP being brothers reminds me of Fred Clause.  Fred is the older brother of Santa, who everyone loves and adores.  Fred hates Santa and even attends a Big Brother Anonymous meeting; I can just see PP sitting there saying “Hi, I’m PP and my little brother is the Dark One, all powerful.”

    Bawhahaha

    August 15, 2013 at 4:50 pm #205107
    Slurpeez
    Participant

    I don’t think the doll originated in Neverland and I don’t think it was taken there by Bae or Rumple.

    But then where did the doll come from?

    "That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

    August 15, 2013 at 4:57 pm #205108
    kpercyman
    Participant

    Okay so in the clip Rumple states that he and PP have always been enemies.  Which makes me believe that Rumple knew PP before he went to NL.  Maybe it was like a Dumbledore/Grindlewald type relationship without the gay thing getting mixed in due to Belle.   Or for those that are book nerds it could be like Finn’s and Gene’s relationship in A Separate Peace in which Finn is PP and Gene is more like Rumple, except not as evil.

    August 15, 2013 at 4:59 pm #205109
    PriceofMagic
    Participant

    I think it may be from Rumple’s past. Something he treasured but lost whilst growing up.

    Or because Felix said YEARS rather than CENTURIES perhaps the doll has nothing to do with Bae or Rumple’s childhood but is a reminder of something bad that Rumple did whilst the dark one on his quest to find Bae.

    In Welcome to Storybrooke, Snow asked Rumple how he lived with himself knowing all the bad things he’s done, and his reply was “you tell yourself you did the right thing and if you say it often enough, one day you might actually believe it”.

    We might actually see one of the bad things Rumple did. The doll turning up is to remind him of that.

    All magic comes with a price!

    Keeper of Felix
    August 15, 2013 at 5:58 pm #205116
    kfchimera
    Participant

    Cornhusk, huh.  It has been said that there are Stephen King references.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Children_of_the_Corn

    “If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass

    August 15, 2013 at 6:40 pm #205124
    RumplesGirl
    Keymaster

    Yes there are. The fact that SB is in Maine is a Stephen King reference. I used to know more but I’ve forgotten.

    Hmmm. The Children of the Corn = super freaking creepy.

    "He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
    August 15, 2013 at 7:39 pm #205128
    kpercyman
    Participant

    Why did I click on the link?  I used to have nightmares as a child from the movie.  I don’t like scary stuff and yet I want to read the wikis on them.

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