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August 18, 2013 at 11:21 pm #205599AtlanticaDreamParticipantAtlanticaDream wrote:
So I’m rewatching the crocodile and I was once again wondering how Hook new about Neverland. I had assumed he had been there before, which may be possible. But if mermaids can travel between worlds (which has been theorized) maybe Ariel told Hook about Neverland when they were kids before he was a pirate (in my head canon they knew each other as children and she loved him but he went off gallivanting, maybe was once known as prince eric)
That’s a cool idea for how he found out about NL! I always end up stumped when I try to think about how mermaids are in NL but Regina was dealing with one and she’s in FTL. Was she dealing with someone in NL? Was the mermaid in FTL? Can Ariel really become enamoured of the human world if all she’s see is NL? Just last night I was thinking about it when I was supposed to be falling asleep, and wondered if maybe Ariel is from NL, and as a teenager she went off exploring and ended up in FTL and ended up trapped there.
I was thinking today when I was writing a long-forgotten fanfic that maybe Neverland wasn’t always like that, like mermaids got along with humans until her mom died and that’s when the curse of the mermaids comes about? If we think Ariel knew hook as a kid, then that would’ve been before bae ended up in Neverland
i definitely think Ariel went off on her own to explore other lands, it has her written all over it lol plus if Neverland becomes like we have seen it, who can blame her?
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August 19, 2013 at 9:17 am #205643kfchimeraParticipantI like the idea of Ariel wanting to explore other worlds. My headcannon is a mess right now! There is Rumpel with a trident, squid ink, possibly Eric, Hook’s past and Regina’s hair streak and mermaid problem. I think Regina made up a pretext to visit him, as her real point was to confirm Rumpel was heartbroken.
“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass
August 19, 2013 at 9:30 am #205647RumplesGirlKeymasterI think you may be on to something with Regina, KFC. She would know that Belle was gone and she would want to gloat. She’s even doing those big EQ smiles when he’s not looking. She knows what she is doing.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"August 19, 2013 at 9:52 am #205651PheeParticipantMy headcannon is a mess right now!
Join the club! No idea what I believe any more. 😆
I think Regina made up a pretext to visit him, as her real point was to confirm Rumpel was heartbroken.
So she has no involvement with a mermaid at all? That would be both hilarious and annoying, considering how much time I’ve wasted trying to figure stuff out, banking on the fact that Regina was doing a deal with Ariel.
August 19, 2013 at 10:36 am #205656AtlanticaDreamParticipantIn my mind, there’s a cave that the mermaids go with the bodies they curse and she steals there hearts :), lol
But in all seriousness, I could see Ariel going to the sea witch’s cave and finding Regina standing in a mirror in all her evil queen glory
Though I’d like Ariel to have met hook previously, so I imagine her making the original deal with rumple for timeline reasons (plus he has a thing with contracts like in the movie), then to Regina to modify it, for instance to get her voice back once she fails, because hook left.
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August 19, 2013 at 10:57 am #205660PheeParticipantBut in all seriousness, I could see Ariel going to the sea witch’s cave and finding Regina standing in a mirror in all her evil queen glory
Well there is water right near Regina’s castle: http://screencapped.net/tv/onceuponatime/displayimage.php?album=26&pid=990260#top_display_media Maybe there’s a tunnel underground that a mermaid could swim up, and it ends somewhere under the castle in a cave?
I’d love for them to have Killian and Ariel meet back when they were younger. Anderson wrote that mermaids can live to be 300, and Killian was alive about 300 years ago. Coincidence? Maybe. But maybe not?
August 19, 2013 at 11:20 am #205667PheeParticipantI felt the need to make a thing to celebrate our Ariel officially having an identity now. Finally decided to stop messing around with it and call it done…
August 19, 2013 at 11:24 am #205668RumplesGirlKeymasterThat is wonderful!
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"August 19, 2013 at 11:30 am #205670PheeParticipantThanks, RG. 🙂 It’s a tad emo, but I like how he lost his hand and she lost her tail, and he’s got a broken heart and she’s got a broken voice. They can help put each other back together. 😉
August 19, 2013 at 3:16 pm #205739kfchimeraParticipantThat was lovely Phee. I liked the color similarities you found for a picture of JoAnna with the Red and black.
I hadn’t thought about how she loses her voice and he loses a hand and they both have to adapt. Well we assume she’ll lose her voice. Who knows how they are going to do anything!
I did think Regina may have had an actual mermaid she was dealing with but she didn’t really “need” Rumpel’s help. Now what could she possibly be doing in terms of deals? One is magical squid ink, but I don’t think Rumpel wanted her getting any of that, nor would she want him to know she had something that powerful.
Second is maybe something with her ships and trade, and a mermaid causing problems? Third, something with cursing Snow–in the original Snow White, one of the ways she kills Snow is a comb. I can’t find any specific comb-related thing other than the Fork in Disney’s version, and they left out the comb part from Snow too. Fourth, something to do with retrieving Henry. Sr or Killing Cora, perhaps? Was that visit before or after she had Henry Sr.?
Maybe Ariel was a collector of random things in FTL, and one of the things she had was something Regina needed and wanted back, just like she wanted the poisoned apple. So Regina felt safe enough to ask Rumpel for help, though she didn’t need to, as it would not be something she minded letting him know she was doing. At the same time, her real reason to be in his castle, as I said, was to taunt him knowing she had Belle. So if he did not help her (as he didn’t), no big loss for her.
“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass
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