The Hookriel/FishHook Relationship Thread

[RumplesGirl]

Part of me fears this though: if Eric is not Hook and Hookriel DOES in fact happen, so much crap will hit the fan for Adam on Twitter it will make SwanQueen look like a stroll in the part. The CSers not be happy that not only did CS not happen but that their Hook isn’t even Ariel’s true prince.

[AtlanticaDream]

I know I’m probably just being stubborn but I still think its entirely possible that eric will be hook when he was younger. Maybe thy won’t reveal it till later though for an awesome twist, taking everyone by surprise and after those of us who guessed had given up on the theory already

Proud Keeper of the Dinglehoppers

[Josephine]

Haha, Adam should do it just for that reason.

CS shippers are going to be mad no matter what if Hookriel were to happen.  If it did happen, they’ll bombard him with hate tweets about leading the CS ship on with parallels, innuendos and baiting.  There’s no way to avoid it.  Same goes if Hooked Queen or any other ship Hook could have would happen.  You can’t please everyone. 

At least with “The Little Mermaid”, the writers can point to the fact that the original was indeed quite different than the Disney version.  Look at how they’re twisting Peter Pan.  I think some percentage of fandom who were raised on the romance of Eric and Ariel will be highly put out and vocal, but this is a show of twisted fairy tales.  It would be surprising, but not shocking of Eric isn’t Ariel’s ultimate true love.

Keeper of Rumplestiltskin's and Neal's spears and war paint and crystal ball.

[Phee]

At least with “The Little Mermaid”, the writers can point to the fact that the original was indeed quite different than the Disney version. Look at how they’re twisting Peter Pan. I think some percentage of fandom who were raised on the romance of Eric and Ariel will be highly put out and vocal, but this is a show of twisted fairy tales. It would be surprising, but not shocking of Eric isn’t Ariel’s ultimate true love.

I think they could do it, but I think they’d have to kill him instead of having him choose someone else. Of course, Eric fans would still be pissed if he was killed off, but I’d have to think that’s still a preferable option to having him choose someone who isn’t Ariel.

Part of me thinks that the new spoiler blurb mentioning Eric being cast is a hint that Liam = Eric. With that casting call info already out there, perhaps this new info was put out there to confirm what Liam’s name really is? If so, and if as everyone has been assuming, he’s gonna be in a flashback to Killian’s youth, and if Ariel was also around at the same time as Eric/Liam, and if she’s mid-30s in present day NL…that would probably mean she was a bit young for Eric/Liam back in the day, because he’s being cast as 35. That’s a lot of “if”s though, so who knows.

Anyway, if they don’t have Ariel end up with Eric, they can certainly say that that jives with the Anderson version, where the mermaid didn’t end up with her prince. And that can leave it open for Hookriel to happen, with it being a 2nd chance at love for both of them.

[RumplesGirl]

I will accept Eric if he dies. Maybe he adopted Hook and then was killed in a raid/mutiny/ect and Hook and Ariel bond over the loss of someone they cared for.

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

[AtlanticaDream]

I like either version as long as we get Hookriel 🙂 Josephine’s right, I you can’t please everyone, if CaptainSwan happens you risk angering SwanFire fans, you just gotta go with what makes for the best story you want to tell. Personally I like CS, then to split off intseparate respective alternatives, but I’m biased by my love for Hookriel 🙂

Proud Keeper of the Dinglehoppers

[kfchimera]

I don’t think I like Hookriel if Eric adopted Hook and Ariel was with Eric.

I’m going to go back to the key clue, and think Hook and Eric met, but it wasn’t father/son, but Hook setting him up to be betrayed. Then Hook falls off the ship in the fight and gets saved by Ariel, except he doesn’t see her, but wakes up in a strange land. He gets rescued by pirates.

I don’t think Hook is from FTL originally. I think Ariel may be a portal jumper and she brought him there. She herself of course is either from NL, or she gets stuck there during the curse.

“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass

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Assuming that Liam = Eric and also Killian’s father (real or adoptive), like I said, I think the age would be off for Ariel/Eric. It would potentially fit better for Hookriel, because if it’s a flashback to Killian’s youth, when his father was 35, (Liam casting call specifies 35), Ariel may well have been around the same age as Killian back then, (I’m not assuming we’ll see her in 305, I’m just speculating who was in the same part of what world and when), could have followed him, watching from afar as he went about his piratey ways, and then she went through the same portal the JR did when he went to NL, and so their ages match in present day.

But they’re not gonna have Eric and then not involve him with Ariel at all. But maybe Liam isn’t Eric? But the dark hair. And the sailor thing. And the timing of Liam appearing immediately before Ariel’s debut. And Hook told Bae that he and his father boarded a ship together. So if Liam’s a Navy Captain, and he’s part of Killian’s story, I could see Killian having been the Captain’s son. Unless he and his father stowed away on Captain Liam’s ship? Or could there have been jobs for civilians on a Navy ship?

If Eric was just the Captain who Killian and his father worked for, then his father went and abandoned him, perhaps Eric took the kid under his wing after that, so they were friends and he became more like a big brother, as opposed to a father figure? If Ariel had had her eye on Eric, but he died, I could see her attentions then turning towards Killian instead, (who she already had an affection for, because she’d seen him while she was watching Eric, and she knew he was someone Eric cared for). Perhaps?

Actually, it could fit well if it’s mermaids who kill Eric, and because Ariel doesn’t want the same thing to happen to Killian, she then sticks to him to watch over him. Maybe she became human to be with Eric, but it was only ever a one sided crush, unrequited love, and the fact that she wasn’t a mermaid when mermaids took Eric, meant that she had no hope of trying to save him. In Anderson’s, Ariel’s sisters do try to convince her to kill the prince so she can return to being a mermaid, so there’s a basis for mermaids wanting Eric dead. Maybe in the Onceiverse, they decide to kill him themselves instead of trying to convince Ariel to do it? And if Killian witnessed this, mermaids killing someone he looked up to as an older brother, that could be where his bias against mermaids stems from.

I don’t think Hook is from FTL originally. I think Ariel may be a portal jumper and she brought him there. She herself of course is either from NL, or she gets stuck there during the curse.

I suspect she’s gonna be from NL, just going by K&H saying, “We all know that NL has mermaids.” I’ve been a fan of the idea that merfolk can realm jump for ages. Sometimes I veer away from the idea a bit with my theory making, but I do think it’s a believable idea they could include.

Haven’t ever considered that Hook isn’t originally from FTL.

[AtlanticaDream]

Do we know how old Hook is when he became a pirate? Cuz if he was in his late teens then him and eric could have been part of the same crew, but he wouldn’t have been adopted. Then Eric dies (I’m thinking at the hands of mermaids) Hook takes over as captain. Ariel loses her first love and like hook is at the time is not ready for a relationship, but we get one in present day Neverland.

Proud Keeper of the Dinglehoppers

[Phee]

We don’t know for sure how old he was, but I’m guessing around 18-ish so they can have Colin play his younger self like they’ve done with other characters.

I like the idea of there being a specific reason that he doesn’t like mermaids. Something like a crewmate or Captain of his being killed by mermaids would work quite nicely. Make that someone be Eric, and it would entwine Hook and Ariel’s history and give them something to overcome in order to be together.

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