The Hookriel/FishHook Relationship Thread

[AtlanticaDream]

Just keep shipping, just keep shipping, shipping, shipping. What do we do? We ship! Where’d that rum go? Lol

[Phee]

I have arrived, and even come bearing my own bottle of rum, because my fave rum is made here in Australia and hardly any of it gets exported, so it’s impossible to find elsewhere, and the raft MUST have Bundy Rum. *takes a swig from the bottle*

Anyway, as I was saying just before in the casting call thread, if Eric being recurring = Ariel having a significant role (beyond the 2 eps previously confirmed), then it’s likely that her history will be shown in more than 1 episode. So I think it’s entirely possible that Eric could be “recurring”, and still be in the past.

*Sings* Yo, ho, haul together, hoist the colours hiiiiiggghhhhh….

[RumplesGirl]

*hands rum to Atlantica*

Drink up me hearties, yo ho!

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

[runaroundmacy]

“heave hoooo, all together… Neevveeerr shaall we diiiiiieeeee!”

*clinking of rum bottles*

Keeper of the Cheshire Cat’s smile, Baelfire’s sword, Snow’s backpack, Robin Hood’s bow, Ariel’s purse, Ariel’s smile, Henry’s heart, Belle’s shoe collection

[AtlanticaDream]

they’re just making us question ourselves so the twist is a surprise!!

Proud Keeper of the Dinglehoppers

[Phee]

Having now had some more time to ponder this Eric development, I’ve attempted to look at Ariel and Eric potential storyline without the Hookriel shipper goggles on, though I dunno if it’s ever truly possible to completely remove the shipper goggles, especially when the conclusion of your argument is gonna be, “don’t think our ship is sunk”, but FWIW…

If Ariel and Eric met in the past, I’d guess it most likely happened in FTL, because it’s more likely that Ariel went to FTL, instead of Eric going to NL. From what we’ve seen so far, NL doesn’t seem to be a likely destination for people, unless they’re being taken there by a Shadow, or they need a timeless land in which to plot their revenge, so they’d need to come up with a reason for Eric having gone there. Also, if we assume that Ariel was the mermaid who Regina was talking about, that means that Ariel was most likely in FTL around the events of Skin Deep, which would fit with her nature of wanting to explore other worlds, so again, her going to FTL seems more likely than Eric going to NL.

So if they got together in FTL, Ariel being human and everything, could they be together in present day NL? Possibly, though they’d need to come up with a reason for them having abandoned FTL. If Ariel was originally from NL, why would she suggest to Eric that it would be a super fun place to go live in, if they had to leave FTL for some reason? Because NL doesn’t seem super fun from that we’ve seen.

If only Ariel is in NL in present day, how did that happen? Something had to have happened to split them up. Something caused Ariel to go to Regina for help, (assuming Ariel is who Regina was talking about), and that help resulted in Ariel ending up in NL, which we’re assuming is where she originally came from, because K&H have specifically referred to NL having mermaids.

Why would Ariel want to go back to NL on her own if she was living happily with Eric in FTL?

In the casting call thread, slurpeez suggested that Eric could be in SB, and I agree that if he’s alive in present day, he’s likely to be in SB. They’d still need to explain why they’re not together currently though…some reason why Ariel would leave him in FTL so he was able to be swept up by the Curse, while she was immune to it in NL.

Having Eric in SB, having Ariel go back there and reunite with him, would mean they’d then need to take time out from everyone else in SB, and everything else that’s going on there, in order to show their reunion in a satisfying way. And they could potentially do that. But if they’re not having much focus on SB in the first 11, by the time they do get back to having a focus there, everyone will be wanting to get caught up with the SBers we know, love, and have been missing, and a detour to show Ariel and Eric reuniting would detract from that. That would essentially bring her storyline to a conclusion, so would they go to the trouble of making sure she gets back to SB from NL, just to wrap her up and write her out? She’ll have to have established some sort of close connection with the JR6 if they’re gonna let her hitch a ride back with them.

Of course, we don’t know what they have in mind for Ariel long term, or short term, or how long her term will be, so maybe they would want to just have her in the first 11 and then give her her happy ending with Eric. I think it makes more sense for them to keep her around long term though, just because Ariel’s such a popular character among people who haven’t even seen the show yet, but may start watching mainly for her.

They’ve said they don’t intend to introduce any more major characters in the first 11, apart from those that were announced up to and including CC. So if that was the truth, then Eric can’t be intended as long term, and anyway, the casting call says, “recurring”. If they wanna wrap up Ariel’s story once she gets to SB, then sure, Eric could be in her flashbacks and then seen again in SB and that would qualify him as recurring. Sort of inconvenient that we never got a casting call for Ariel, to see how the role was classified and if she’s also just “recurring”.

Anyway, basically, taking a healthy dose of assumptions and speculation into consideration, along with what little info we do have…I don’t think the casting of a recurring Eric necessarily rules out the possibility of Ariel being single in present day. Even if they were together for a time, and were happy, it’s possible that she lost him, which caused her to take her heartbroken self back to NL, maybe to be near her family, even if she couldn’t be turned back into a mermaid to go live with them. Or maybe that’s why she went to see Regina, not to become human, but to become a mermaid again so she could go back to her family? The only reason I could imagine her doing that, is if she’d permanently lost Eric, (ie: he died).

So I don’t think recurring Eric automatically sinks the Hookriel ship, and I’ll cling to that belief unless and until we get something definite that officially, completely rules out the possibility.

Regardless, I shall continue to sit here and drink some more rum. 😛

[kfchimera]

I have seen speculation that ERIC is Regina’s love interest….what if, just before the curse went down, Regina took on a disguise as Vanessa to practice her transformation. She meets Eric who falls for her with no idea who she is, which charms Regina. (this is part of her inspiration for what she wants in SB, a fresh start). Unknown to Eric or Regina, Ariel had come to FTL to explore and had fallen for Eric. Ariel reveals who Vanessa really is to Eric and he rejects Regina, so she kills him (maybe strangling him with squid like tree branches? I don’t know). Ariel escapes through a portal (lets just say she has portal magic) getting trapped in NL. Regina’s problem is that Ariel escaped, but she does not care that much, more a pretext to needle Rumple when she talks about a certain mermaid.

So when Ariel sees Regina again…she’s out for blood.

Now I’m not sure how that plays into Hookriel, as nominally, Hook would be against Ariel in this scenario. Oh well.

Sailing on….

“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass

[PriceofMagic]

I wonder if Ariel’s arc is going to be she’s trying to get back to Eric in SB from NL. Ariel believes (and the audience is led to believe) that when they find each other again, they’re going to have one big happy ending. However, when Ariel eventually reaches Storybrooke, she discovers that Eric is happily married to a woman named Vanessa.

Ariel is then left single and heartbroken (like the Anderson version) but doesn’t kill herself (like the Disney version) and Ariel fans will be baying for Eric’s blood.

Hook having lost out on the CaptainSwanFire triangle comes across Ariel. Both commiserate their rejection by their lovers, they have a drink, one thing leads to another, they share a Hookriel kiss, then we’ll see how it plays out.

All magic comes with a price!

Keeper of Felix

[RumplesGirl]

I like the first half, PoM, and that is more or less becoming my new headcanon. Except that in my version Ariel is much more forgiving and lets Eric go because he is happily settled and she still has adventure in her bones.

I just differ on the CSF interpreatation because I don’t think Hook and Emma will ever be remotely romantic. I think they may flirt and tease each other but they’ll come to discover and learn that they are much better off as best friends instead of romance. I don’t want the beginnings of Hookriel to be a drunk, missing the person I’m supposed to be with, thing.

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

[PriceofMagic]

I think Ariel would be a little bit annoyed if the guy she was willing to give up being a mermaid for was married to some one else. I’d like to see Ariel showing hints of her darker mermaid nature (but she doesn’t carry through).

I think CaptainSwan will get romantic but neither will feel the passion they felt with their respective other halves (Neal and Milah).

All magic comes with a price!

Keeper of Felix

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