The Hookriel/FishHook Relationship Thread

[kfchimera]

Hookriel has been around before this show even, before Hook made his first appearance on the show so in my case I view it as more of a fan-what-if thing right now. I think most people don’t yet think it’s what the writers intend, so much as what fans hope they might consider doing.

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@KFChimera wrote:

@MysteryKat25 wrote:

Ariel would fit if done right but again we don’t know who’s playing her, what age etc etc so I’ll wait to officially dive in.

I see, fair enough if you don’t like the mash up technique or are unsure it would play out well for Hook. The age is a good point–if a young teenage actress is cast, I would also be uncomfortable watching an actor Colin’s age in a romantic relationship with her.

If this 15 year old Laine MacNeil who's supposed to be in the finale, (though she's not mentioned in the press release, which is odd) turns out to be Ariel like some have speculated, then the ship is already sunk before it had a chance to sail. This nagging thought will be in the back of my mind all week until we see who she plays. Mind you, K&H have said that we'll hear suggestions about someone we won't see until next season, and now they've had Wendy drop the mermaid bombshell, and there's gonna be a scene with Hook mentioning them too. And they've also hinted that Ariel would be a season 3 story. So I'm cautiously optimistic that Laine won't be Ariel, who will be the character hinted at but not yet seen.

If it were my show, I’d cast Ariel early 20s in order to be able to give her a fully developed romance storyline and a darker edge, (I love the fluffy Disney version, but also love the Anderson version, which isn’t nearly as cheery). But alas, ’tis not my show, so I must just sit and twiddle my thumbs and wait to see what sort of an Ariel they give us.

[MysteryKat25]

Yeah I’m still leery about the age thing so waiting to see who they cast but I get why people started the idea so early and being Hook doesn’t rule him out as also being Eric so it’s technically possible.

I love Hook so if they do it right I’m sure I’ll be on board. Right now I only see him with Emma because there’s just nobody else on the show that works so if they want him somewhere down the line to be kicked out of the triangle then I want him to have somewhere to go that would be equally as interesting to me and Ariel, it not a teenager…would fit that well I think, depending on how they do that.

I don’t want them to say “oh well, we’ll tease the triangle for ages but better give him a backup so let’s stick in Ariel”. I’d rather have something real work for him and not have it be there just to get him out of the way for SwanFire to be endgame, especially this early in the series.

I don’t want endgame to be for a VERY long time, especially for Emma since she’s one of the only ones we don’t know she (officially) belongs with. That being said, the moment they decide that Killian is Hook’s middle name and he uses it because it’s cooler but his first name (Eric), then of course I’d be 100% on board with Hookriel / FishHook because that’s canon we grew up with, as much as I adore CaptainSwan.

They haven’t been mishmashing the canon Disney couples so I’d like to think that whoever Ariel ends up with has to be Eric in some way shape or form, but I’m warming to the idea that it *could* be Hook (though I have loved the idea of Tom Welling as Eric since the show started, I adore Colin and find him charming so I’m sure he could handle it and adding the Hook/Killian side to Eric would give him more depth).

It does sound like Ariel will be connected to Neverland though so it’s likely there will be lots of interaction for people to use for the ship if it looks viable. Not sure why he’d have spent 100+ years near her and ignored her til now, she must be verrrrry patient or have hated him for a time / not had much to do with him ever, and then new circumstances change things perhaps.

Interested in seeing what their story is regardless of the ship just because it should be an interesting mashup.

Keeper of Hook's Trenchcoat.

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@MysteryKat25 wrote:

They haven’t been mishmashing the canon Disney couples so I’d like to think that whoever Ariel ends up with has to be Eric in some way shape or form, but I’m warming to the idea that it *could* be Hook

Part of my ponderings on what they could do with this is that they make Killian be of a noble bloodline, but his parents were killed when he was young and he ran away so he wasn’t killed too, changed his name so no one would find him, and he grew up to become a pirate. That way, if he’s the one Ariel saves from drowning, it still holds true that she technically saved a prince. 😉

It does sound like Ariel will be connected to Neverland though so it’s likely there will be lots of interaction for people to use for the ship if it looks viable. Not sure why he’d have spent 100+ years near her and ignored her til now, she must be verrrrry patient or have hated him for a time / not had much to do with him ever, and then new circumstances change things perhaps.

Also part of my ponderings, and this ties into Anderson’s more depressing version of the story. In that version, the prince falls in love with and marries someone other than the mermaid, (an actual person, not Ursula in disguise trying to trick him into it). A play on that theme could be Killian already having given his heart away to Milah, and if he lost her not long before he meets Ariel, the poor girl stood no chance, trying to compete with a ghost and his lust for revenge.

[MysteryKat25]

Phee – agreed on everything. Can’t wait to see how it plays out! I like the idea of seeing her save Hook but it may take a super long time for him to be open to anything, especially if this all occurred after the Milah thing…

She better be a red-head though or people are gonna throw fits and for once I can’t blame them! They got away with Aurora because she’s the 2nd “sleeping beauty” so I’m hoping / assuming that if/when we see her mother be attacked by Mal as well – which we should *eventually* that the mother will in fact be blonde but that is not nearly as bad as not having Ariel be a red-head so *fingers crossed*

Keeper of Hook's Trenchcoat.

[kfchimera]

Phee– that was my headcannon idea too, because the original little mermaid tale (beyond being depressing!) is built around the unrequited love the mermaid has for the prince. It’s also got a much more heavily religious undertone (as do Andersen’s other tales…like the red shoes..) but there’s a lot to play with for OUAT. Maybe a connection between mermaids and fairies with the “sisters of the air” coda in the original?

I don’t even think they have to go for the happy ending here–OUAT can be dark sometimes, and having an Ariel who is an immortal NL mermaid who pines for a man who will never love her in return is the kind of weepy tragic thing they might do despite saying the show is all about hope. After all, we have Mulan tagging along with Phillip and Aurora rather than off with Chang. Though I want the happy ending version.

“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass

[MysteryKat25]

I could see it going that way too KFChimera – lots of possibilities with that but it would be very sad and it would greatly upset a lot of fans who only know the Disney version of Ariel. Although if they do that angle and then have somebody else *cough* Eric *cough* come in and sweep her off her…tail? then it would be OK. Can’t say I’d blame her for loving Hook for that long though 😉

Yeah where is Shang?? I never got the MAP triangle just because there shouldn’t be one! We saw TLK work for A&P and most of us know who Mulan is supposed to be with so where is he? =/

Keeper of Hook's Trenchcoat.

[kfchimera]

Shang..whoops wrong name–I think he’s just going to be left out or at best there’ll be a tweet about “oh yeah, Mulan reunites with him offscreen.” Blah!

“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass

[MysteryKat25]

I hope not! I have a feeling that the MAP characters are ones that we’ll just see from time to time when things relate to other more prominent stories and that hopefully we’ll eventually get a glimpse of Shang. I’d like to think since the girls spent so much time with Emma & Snow that we’ll see them more often than some of the other characters that were only around for a short time. They probably would have joined Emma & Snow had Mulan not needed to go return Aurora’s heart and Aurora getting new insight into how to save Phillip. *Fingers crossed* we see it rather than hear about it, even if it takes awhile for the story to be relevant enough to show.

As for Ariel I really do want her to be with Eric but I’m kinda liking the idea of Hook being Eric the more I think about it. A nice combination of the stories has a lot of potential and it gives me hope that one way or the other Hook may find love cause he’s one of my favorite characters and I don’t want to give up hope.

Keeper of Hook's Trenchcoat.

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Was just thinking about this mermaids in NL thing they’ve confirmed now through Wendy telling Bae. This must surely mean that Ariel’s story will take place in NL, right? Otherwise it’s the biggest misdirection in the history of misdirections.

K&H said we'd hear hints about someone new before season's end but we won't see them until season 3, and I'm really starting to think that that someone is Ariel.

If so, NL isn’t exactly known for being overrun with eligible bachelors to fill the role of her prince, due to the fact that humans there don’t grow up, which means that her prince must be an out of towner. Thus far, the only adult out of towners we know of who have been in NL are Hook and his crew. Of course, that could potentially change, (though it would be sort of repetitive if they show someone else’s ship coming to NL too), but as of right now, just looking at it logically, I’d say Hook is a definite contender.

Unless there’s some guy on his crew named Eric. 😛

PS. If you haven't already seen this sneak peek of Hook talking to Bae, he mentions mermaids…it's only one sentence, but it still made me flail to see him mention them: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DJY4LfhIr4 I think the “curse of the mermaids” is the myth that they drag you to your death if they catch you in the water, which sets it up for them to show us Ariel saving someone instead in the future. The shipper in me wants to say that them showing that Hook in particular believes it is foreshadowing that he's the one who'll personally experience the opposite. I'm trying not to get ahead of myself with this stuff, but dang it's hard to not let my imagination run away from me!

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