The Hookriel/FishHook Relationship Thread

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@Josephine wrote:

Just maybe Ariel never got sucked up by the curse since I assume there will be other beings in Neverland not taken to Storybrooke. So she could still be stuck in Neverland, forever doomed to her fate. I would love to encounter a smart-talking, sarcastic Ariel. It’s just twisted enough to work.

Yep, my headcanon has her still in NL, which was unaffected by the Curse. I’d love an Ariel with some sass. If she’s gonna be paired with Hook, she’s gotta be able to hold her own.

Oh, and a word of advice…don’t tag your posts #fishhook on Tumble. It means something else that is definitely “NSFW”. I made the mistake and got a real shock. I’ve stopped using the phrase for them since them. 😮 😯

I once did a search for Ariel and came upon a photo where someone was posing like…let’s just say, it was evidently right after Ariel had arrived on land and she was testing how far apart these these new leg things could spread. 😕 😯

@Red192 wrote:

Somewhere on tumblr, there are gifs where someone’s taken scenes from The Little Mermaid and edited Eric so he looks like Hook with the stubble. 😉

@sacrlc wrote:

What if the mermaids are like the mermaids in the 4th Pirates of the Caribbean movie? They would lure men to the water and then kill them, similar to the sirens of the sea who lured the ships to the rocks. All the mermaids did this except one who was captured. Ariel?

I’m pretty sure Onceiverse NL mermaids will have a rep for being a “curse” because they drag you down to drown if they catch you. It’s the perfect setup to show Ariel as being unique when she saves someone from drowning instead.

As with all the baddies on this show though, I suspect they’ll have a reason for wanting to drown humans. Right now I wanna say that it will be because they hate PP and his minions, so kill any they can get their hands on.

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Found those tumblr posts I mentioned in my previous post, with the gifs where Eric has been edited to look Hook-ish:

http://sailsafterthismermaid.tumblr.com/post/47996395779/one-reason-i-want-mute-ariel-the-actress-having

http://sailsafterthismermaid.tumblr.com/post/47608971091

http://sailsafterthismermaid.tumblr.com/post/48160750929

[kfchimera]

@Phee wrote:

Found those tumblr posts I mentioned in my previous post, with the gifs where Eric has been edited to look Hook-ish:

http://sailsafterthismermaid.tumblr.com/post/47996395779/one-reason-i-want-mute-ariel-the-actress-having

http://sailsafterthismermaid.tumblr.com/post/47608971091

http://sailsafterthismermaid.tumblr.com/post/48160750929

Those are hilarious. 😆

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[AtlanticaDream]

I wish I was that talented lol The reason for them drowning people could have to do with her mother, like in Ariel’s beginning

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[obisgirl]

There’s a new theory floating around tumblr that Ariel is Hook’s mom and she fell in love with Hook’s dad and they had one beautiful night together and Ariel managed to negotiate with someone to stay human for nine months, so she could carry the baby to term but then once she gives birth to baby Killian, she turns back into a mermaid and her and Killian’s daddy are separated, and Killian’s dad is so depressed and miserable about this that he abandons his son to find Ariel.

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Anyway so basically I think that part of the solution with Regina’s problem *and I also think she is going to be Ursula* is to send her to Neverland. And when she gets sent it might be like just a few years before the curse hits? IDK how the Neverland time works but it probably wouldn’t be 100-200 years.
I also am hoping that once Ariel and Hook do meet *I hope they meet when he was just Killian Jones and then don’t see each other till NVL* that they have a complicated relationship.

Ah, that comment of Regina’s has been taunting us for so long now! Hook’s comments about mermaids struck me as something he’d seen evidence of right there in NL. If so, (and if they don’t go and retcon Regina’s comment), we have mermaids in two separate worlds. Of course, maybe Hook’s comments WEREN’T meant to imply something he’d seen happen in NL, and he’s talking of previous experience in FTL…but mermaids are traditionally residents of NL, so I can’t shake the idea that Hook has encountered some since he’s been there and that we’ll see some there.

I do kinda like the idea of Ariel having encountered Killian in his pre-Hook days. If so, it must have been 300-odd years ago in FTL, (though we don’t have clarification as to if Killian had been to other world in his time pre-Hook, “many strange glittering shores” is delightfully vague), so if the whole deal with Ursula went down right after Ariel met him, then Regina couldn’t be Ursula, because she hasn’t been alive that long.

FWIW though, in Anderson’s Little Mermaid, the mermaid’s grandmother says, “We sometimes live to three hundred years,” which is quite matchy matchy to the length of time that we’ve been told Rumple and Hook have been alive for. So, could Ariel have potentially seen a young Killian in FTL 300-odd years ago, and then almost 300 years later have sought out Ursula/Regina in a desperate attempt to find him again before she dies? (Of course, if they went this route, they’d have to have mermaids shown as not aging as humans do, because I doubt they’d show Ariel as an elderly woman trying to get back to 30-something Killian…I know we’ve got a significant physical appearance age difference with Rumbelle, but I just can’t imagine Ariel being portrayed as looking so old that she’s going grey.)

Anyway, in this scenario, Regina/Ursula could have made Ariel human after the events of Skin Deep, (ever since we saw Rumple take a tongue, I’ve figured that must be connected to Ursula doing it to Ariel, and we do know that Rumple taught Regina stuff), and then maybe Ariel could have found her way to NL looking for Killian, and she could still be there in present day. Unless she was just searching for him in FTL and got swept up in the Curse and ends up popping up in SB. But having someone actually in NL mention mermaids feels like foreshadowing that we’ll see THE mermaid in NL in some capacity.

It depends on what Ariel is going to be like.
Hook has not had good encounters with mermaids apparently so she could be an evil mermaid, or some people have said Neverland is cursed so that’s why she is evil, and Hook said “curse of the mermaids” or something like that, so they wouldn’t like each other.
Or if she was like the only good mermaid maybe he wouldn’t trust her and they just butt heads all the time.

I’d love to have legit malevolent mermaids who have a rep for being dangerous because they actually are. Ariel would be different of course, but could still have that dark side lurking there because she can’t completely escape how mermaids are genetically programmed to behave. I’d love to see a sailor who has a predisposition to hating mermaids due to past experience actually end up falling in love with one.

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There’s a new theory floating around tumblr that Ariel is Hook’s mom and she fell in love with Hook’s dad and they had one beautiful night together and Ariel managed to negotiate with someone to stay human for nine months, so she could carry the baby to term but then once she gives birth to baby Killian, she turns back into a mermaid and her and Killian’s daddy are separated, and Killian’s dad is so depressed and miserable about this that he abandons his son to find Ariel.

Yeah, I’ve seen that theory on tumblr. Needless to say, it would sink the Hookriel ship if proven true, so I’m not really on board with it. LOL 😉

ETA that it’s not just on shipper grounds that I’m not really into the idea of Ariel as Hook’s mother. Just speaking as a straight up Ariel fan, I’m hoping she’ll be significant enough to be involved in present day storyline, and having her be Hook’s mother would relegate her to just being in flashbacks in 1 or 2 eps.

[PriceofMagic]

How young do you think Ariel will be? In the Disney version, she’s only sixteen which makes her one of the youngest princesses. If they do go young then a relationship with Hook would be a big no. If they go older then they will lose Ariel’s innocence and curiosity about humans since she should be old enough to know better.

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[Slurpeez]

How young do you think Ariel will be? In the Disney version, she’s only sixteen which makes her one of the youngest princesses. If they do go young then a relationship with Hook would be a big no. If they go older then they will lose Ariel’s innocence and curiosity about humans since she should be old enough to know better.

I agree with your assessment. I’d prefer to see Ariel be the same age as in the Disney cartoon. Her youth, inexperience and teenage rebellion go hand-in-hand together. Also, I’d like to see Ariel potentially be a romantic pairing for Peter Pan, who is traditionally between 14. The writers may make Peter closer to 16, which was the age for the casting call for the lost ones. I know a lot of people want to see Wendy Darling as the romantic pairing for Peter, but then again, Wendy may have gone up to grow up, whereas by being in Neverland, Ariel would remain a perpetual teenager, much like Peter Pan would.

"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

[Slurpeez]

Also, I want to see Ariel be a teenager, because I think it would be helpful to capture a younger audience who can relate to Ariel’s teenage angst. While I know there are probably a lot of teenagers who are already fans of the show, it might help to draw in even more if there were some younger female roles being cast for S3.

"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

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