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But on the whole, this episode was just so freaking good.
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–Everything?!
–But no really….this episode was hilarious. I was laughing like 95% of the time. The Doctor and his yo-yo were really great. They have taken pains this season to show him in a softer light and it turns out that he has quite a bizarre sense of humor.
–The Doctor reversed the polarity of the neutron flow. YAAAAAAAAS 3rd Doctor references.
–Really great acting from Capaldi this week. He is becoming a lot more comfortable in the role of the Doctor and making it his own.
–The Doctor did the heavy lifting again!!
–The conversations between the Doctor and Clara in which she just listens and encourages and tells him that he’ll “find it” (solution) were spot on. Also, the conversation about the Doctor always losing people and running so that the pain never catches up…perfect. Just absolutely perfect.
–I am the Doctor! And I save people!! (I may have wildly applauded)
–Maisie did a great job.
–The Doctor giving all the Vikings stupid nicknames
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–Nothing much! One quibble: the final moment of the full camera spin while we stay on Ashildr was cheesy but honestly it’s such a minor quibble that I’m not really bothered at all.
[adrotate group="5"]"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"I quite liked the camera spin marking the passing of time and how you saw Maisie’s character go from happy and bright-eyed to something darker and jaded.
Also loved the 10th Doctor flashback and the recognition that Capaldi was in that episode. (Ironically, so was Amy Pond’s actress)
I honestly enjoyed this episode. For me, this episode has been the strongest one of Capaldi’s run so far.
This season as a whole has been better than the entirety of season 8 and I think that is entirely down to the fact that the writers have realised that Clara is meant to be a companion and so have now put her in the companion role and allowed the doctor to do the heavy lifting instead of vice versa.
The words “duty of care” seem to be cropping up a lot and I definitely think it is foreshadowing Clara leaving. I think how Clara leaves will go one of two ways: Either the Doctor will fail in his “duty of care” and Clara dies, or the doctor will abandon Clara back on earth because he has a “duty of care” to keep her safe and the longer she is with him the more danger she is putting herself in. Ether way, Clara’s leaving! Woohoo!
In conclusion, definitely the best episode of Capaldi’s run so far.
All magic comes with a price!
Keeper of FelixI give this episode 9.5
It was hilarious yet serious, it was light yet deep, it was solid yet flowing, it was the Doctor.
I laughed and I cried. I CRIED on this episode.
Things that stood out to me the most.
*The translation of the baby!
*I am so tired of losing
*Fire in Water
*Making puddings and babies, that’s pretty much what you do!
Alas the loss of Clara its coming, it makes me sad. More pain for the doctor to run from. More tears for me to shed. 🙁
I so want her to be with Danny wherever he is…
"I will be kind but I will speak my mind."
Hi Whovians! Like others here I loved this Dr. Who episode! Vikings, robot aliens and Arya! What is not to love about this episode?! I love the campyness of this one and the humor and sweet moments were so well balanced. @RG did you do a little happy dance when they snapped the sonic sunglasses in half?
"To leave an enemy without an answer, say these words to him: Aglaria Pidhol garia Ananus Qepta" and blow in his direction; then he will not know which way he is headed and cannot answer you." - Swedish Trollproverb
@RG did you do a little happy dance when they snapped the sonic sunglasses in half?
Possibly more than a little happy dance. Possibly a wild cheer
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"Hahah! Yeah I was very amused by that scene and I hope they don’t come back. Was anyone else reminded of Jack Harkness in this episode? Obviously Ashildr is a very different character, but the whole not being able to die thing had me thinking of our dear Face of Boe.
Also, my heart still aches for Danny Pink. When the Doctor gave Ashildr a second chip and then explained to Clara why… * tear *
"To leave an enemy without an answer, say these words to him: Aglaria Pidhol garia Ananus Qepta" and blow in his direction; then he will not know which way he is headed and cannot answer you." - Swedish Trollproverb
Hahah! Yeah I was very amused by that scene and I hope they don’t come back. Was anyone else reminded of Jack Harkness in this episode? Obviously Ashildr is a very different character, but the whole not being able to die thing had me thinking of our dear Face of Boe. Also, my heart still aches for Danny Pink. When the Doctor gave Ashildr a second chip and then explained to Clara why… * tear *
I’m glad I am not alone in my morning for Danny! I loved Danny Pink, he was fun, different, and real. Love is a Promise.
And yes I though of Jack as Ashildr is facing the same fate.
I think the thing is she told the doctor that she was strange and different but her village people loved and accepted her quirky oddball nature. So the painful thing for her was to watch the village people who loved and accepted her die anyway. Because with immortality there is a price of losing the ones you love and sense of loneliness.
If Clara is to leave I am hoping for her to have Danny!
Martha had her family and career
Donna had her family
Amy had Rory
Clara has nothing but the Doctor now and her students, she had Danny. I want Clara with Danny.
Another thing bugging me is in Listen we meet someone who is a descendant of Danny and possibly Clara’s. Was that future changed or is it still a possibility.
I think of Amy the girl who waited who gave young Amy the days, her days.
Could the doctor give Clara and Danny the days.
My all time Favorite Clara moment
And now I am going to go off and cry somewhere.
"I will be kind but I will speak my mind."
A late Review of last week! Episode 5
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Ok, that was amazing! 😀 I watched it two nights in a row!
I am going to look at a transcript later. Because when the Doctor translated the baby, it reminded me of a song I know. I’m going to find the lyrics later, and the appropriate quote. 🙂
LOVED the flashback to Pompeii! Of course the Doctor saves people! And of course he needs to be reminded sometimes! :happy:
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“A good death is all you can hope for, unless you are up for immortality.” Foreshadowing.
“Immortality is not living forever, it is watching everyone else die.” This, in an episode filled with constant reminders of the Doctor losing everybody.
The Doctor sensed something special about Ashildr from the beginning. As she is to become a “complicated space time event” as it were, of course he sensed that slightly.
Overall, slightly reminiscent of River in the Library. He felt like he knew her, but found that he knows her from his future not his past. She saves everyone and he thinks she is dead, then he has a realization and goes back and “saves her”. And he was reading a diary. And River’s closing narration from the library could apply here as well:
When you run with the Doctor, it feels like it will never end. But however hard you try, you can’t run for ever. Everybody knows that everybody dies, and nobody knows it like the Doctor. But I do think that all the skies of all the worlds might just turn dark, if he ever, for one moment, accepts it.
(Though now it feels all the stranger that he never went back for Jenny at the end of The Doctor’s Daughter.)
But then the result, of how Ashildr was saved, makes her an awful lot like Jack Harkness! And you just know, eventually those two will run into each other! 😆
She thought she was strange and didn’t fit in before she became immortal, she will be much stranger now! She’ll never truly fit in anywhere, but she will have to learn how to deal with that. “The girls all thought I was a boy, and the boys thought I was just a girl.” (Jack Harkness won’t object! 😆 )
And the Doctor gave a David Tennant line just before being reminded of Pompeii. “I’m sorry. I’m so terribly sorry.”
There was another line that reminded me of early moffat eps, but what was it? Oh yeah, when he was scolding the Vikings at the beginning, saying “I’m very very cross with you”. It reminded me of the Doctor’s scolding in the Empty Child/Doctor Dances!
Overall it felt like watching the early Moffat episodes, when they were singularly amazing standalone episodes. 🙂
Other notes:
I liked the looks between the Doctor and Clara when she raised her hand, to say that she has held a sword in battle.
“Fly like a bird! Run like a nose!”
Heidi. 😛
SFG
PS, I get my quotes from the great transcripts made by a member at my other forum. 🙂
Keeper of Anna’s Awkward Babbling and Kristoff’s Fur-trimmed Tunic!
That was incredible. Seriously, this season is really hitting it out of the park. I’ll have more later, but *man* that was great.
For next week
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"LINK to more thoughts but I really loved this episode.
I’ve thoroughly enjoyed almost every episode so far. This week wasn’t as funny as last week’s episode but it did hit on the two major themes I think Moffat is playing with this year: 1) the Doctor’s influence on those he encounters. We tend to think that the Doctor only has good influence on people because he typically saves them from some sort of threat. But Moffat, very slowly, has done a nice job of dismantling that idea and instead is showing how meeting the Doctor doesn’t amount to nothing but sunshine and roses. Clara and Ashildr are prime examples. 2) The line between friends and enemies is blurred to the point where it’s probably nonexistent except in our own minds.
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–Maisie Williams. This is an actress who is known for one role and one role only. But she nailed Ashildr. I got a little too much Arya Stark last week–the young tomboy who doesn’t fit in anywhere, brave and hot headed. But this week I didn’t see Arya at all (well, not too much. She’s still there in the snark and witty comebacks). Maisie was only in two episodes but she made me really care about Ashildr. The image of her falling to the floor crying over her three children who were taken by the Black Plague and then her tearfully begging the Doctor to take her with him…heartbreaking. She nailed it. Can we have her back please?
–Once again Peter Capaldi is really starting to feel more comfortable in his Doctor role. He’s more quirky and less angsty (though, being the Doctor, the angst is there in spades).
–I enjoyed the small bit that Clara was in, especially the way the show framed the final shot. Clara, still wide eyed staring up at the TARDIS as it begins to take off, while the Doctor looks on her with happiness (because he is reminded that life is fleeting and therefore beautiful) but also sadness (because he knows that sooner rather than later, Clara will leave him). No words were spoken in this moment, but you felt all those emotions. Props to Jenna and Peter.
–“What happened to you?” “You did.” This little exchange between Ashildr and the Doctor is a nice callback to last week’s conversation between the Doctor and Clara in which the Doctor wonders what he’s “done” to Clara.
–Love the Jack Harkness shout out!
–The few flashbacks to Ashildr’s life over the past 800 years. Cheeky and funny but still very sad because she’s living in times that were not easy.
–Clara’s outfit was super cute.
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–The entire plot of alien race trying to invade Earth was rather *meh* whatever, except in the way it paralleled last week–Ashildr stepping up and showing how much she cared because her village was in danger. That was the whole point so even if I found the alien and the threat lackluster, it nailed the narrative point. Nice graphics, though!
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–How did the Doctor get those stupid glasses back! ARG.
Seriously, 9/10 for this week.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
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