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I think I was under the impression that at some point they said Wonderland wasn’t magical…but I’m obviously wrong. 😳
My other questions still stand.[adrotate group="5"]"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"Maybe because no one really seems to like Wonderland. Odd, I would think that it would be WONDERfull….. 😀
Jefferson- I HATE wonderland
Rumple- annoying little world@RumplesGirl wrote:
3) If Jefferson’s hat can only travel to magical realms, how did he get to Wonderland?
Does Wonderland not have magic? Those hedges seemed pretty magical, as did the food. Jefferson having his head cut off, but then for him to remain alive? Pretty darn magical. I think every world has it’s own “kind” magic, since Jefferson tells Regina that Frankenstein isn’t used to “their” magic. So for Frankenstein, he calls the magic of his world “science” even though that isn’t what it truly is. As the only true science is in our world, with not a single ounce of magic or mysticism to change results.
Why did Jefferson go to Wonderland originally? Did Rumple send him? What did Rumple think was in Wonderland originally that would help him? If we assume that Rumple sent Jefferson there for some item and Jefferson didn’t discover it, that would lead Rumple to conclude that Wonderland is an annoying little world, not worth of his time. But still, it begs the question, what did Rumple THINK was there to warrant going?
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"@RumplesGirl wrote:
Why did Jefferson go to Wonderland originally? Did Rumple send him? What did Rumple think was in Wonderland originally that would help him? If we assume that Rumple sent Jefferson there for some item and Jefferson didn’t discover it, that would lead Rumple to conclude that Wonderland is an annoying little world, not worth of his time. But still, it begs the question, what did Rumple THINK was there to warrant going?
Good question. Maybe he went himself to look for a portal. Alice did fall through a rabbit hole/ go through a looking glass to get there. So maybe Rumple was just looking for a some sort of portal to our world. Unless, Alice isn’t from our world and from EF.
If Alice went through a rabbit hole in our world and came out into Wonderland….then the rabbit hole should still be in Wonderland. The way Alice gets back to our land is pretty unclear, especially in the movie where it’s almost like she was dreaming. Maybe in the end there is no way to back our land from Wonderland. One time only trip. So, Alice and Jefferson fall in love, but she can’t get back home and even as a portal jumper Jefferson can’t help her. They keep trying to get her home but at some point it has dire consequences and she dies because of their efforts and he swears to give up portal jumping and raise their daughter instead.
Random theory that I just spun out while typing this comment. 🙂
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"@Cherish wrote:
Just have her be responsible for her own actions and grow from them. Don’t excuse them and try to rationalize them. Evil isn’t rational, so trying to make sense of Regina’s most evil deeds is kind of useless. I don’t expect the writers to justify or excuse Rumpel killing his wife or killing his maid. So, why do it with Regina?
Regina’s more human than Rumple. That’s the reason I find her actions harder to excuse than Rumple’s. This ep was the first time when I legit felt heartache for Regina. Doesn’t mean I automatically excuse what she’s done though, because the whole way along, she’s made bad choices that she needs to be held accountable for. But I did feel her pain when Daniel was attacking her and she had to kill him. That moment was a nice little contrast to the scene where she killed her father. Back then, he was begging for his life, and here, Daniel was begging for his death.
Anyway, it sucks for Regina that they set her up to become Rumple’s monster. She was manipulated by the master. Jefferson was manipulated by Rumple too. They were both pawns in his game, Jefferson seduced by his paycheque and Regina by her lust for power and inability to let Daniel go.
But if this was indeed the incident that caused Regina to later punish Jefferson, that means she’s wrongly punished someone for the second time. First it was Snow, who was clearly manipulated by Cora, but Regina still blamed Snow. Then it was Jefferson who was clearly manipulated by Rumple, but Regina still blamed Jefferson.
Jefferson is someone who wasn’t exactly squeaky clean, but there came a point in his life where he had a reality check and realised what was truly important and changed his focus, even if it meant collecting fungus and living on the poverty line. Regina’s moment like that should have been, (if it hadn’t come beforehand), when she was standing there thinking about killing her father. But she still made the wrong choice and killed him. I can’t easily excuse that.
@RumplesGirl wrote:
If Alice went through a rabbit hole in our world and came out into Wonderland….then the rabbit hole should still be in Wonderland. The way Alice gets back to our land is pretty unclear, especially in the movie where it’s almost like she was dreaming. Maybe in the end there is no way to back our land from Wonderland. One time only trip. So, Alice and Jefferson fall in love, but she can’t get back home and even as a portal jumper Jefferson can’t help her. They keep trying to get her home but at some point it has dire consequences and she dies because of their efforts and he swears to give up portal jumping and raise their daughter instead.
Random theory that I just spun out while typing this comment. 🙂
Good possible theory! I like it. Would love to see Jefferson’ wife is Alice.
@RumplesGirl wrote:
If Alice went through a rabbit hole in our world and came out into Wonderland….then the rabbit hole should still be in Wonderland.
Alice fell down a rabbit hole and ended up in…a room full of doors. Sound familiar? Maybe there’s actually no literal rabbit hole and the “rabbit hole” in the story was actually a top hat that she followed someone into.
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@RumplesGirl wrote:
If Alice went through a rabbit hole in our world and came out into Wonderland….then the rabbit hole should still be in Wonderland.
Alice fell down a rabbit hole and ended up in…a room full of doors. Sound familiar? Maybe there’s actually no literal rabbit hole and the “rabbit hole” in the story was actually a top hat that she followed someone into.
Thats how she met Jefferson! Ohhhh I hope his wife is Alice lol I really like this theory!!!
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