The promo

[craxyfox]

There seems to be a lot of resentment towards Tamara around the blog realm, and we’ve barely met her yet
Yea she looks a little sketchy from the promo, but most of this dislike seemed to form as soon as we knew that she’s Neal’s fiancée 😆

[Slurpeez]

@craxyfox wrote:

There seems to be a lot of resentment towards Tamara around the blog realm, and we’ve barely met her yet
Yea she looks a little sketchy from the promo, but most of this dislike seemed to form as soon as we knew that she’s Neal’s fiancée 😆

Yes, I’ll be the first to admit bias against Tamara, because I like SwanFire (even after initially favoring CaptainSwan). Tamara was always going to be an obstacle, but as Jane Espenson said in a recent interview, “Fiancees are like walls. They can be moved.” Plus, the promo and the pics just really confirm that Tamara is not to be trusted, and a recent spoiler indicates Tamara has an agenda. I think she doesn’t love Baelfire at all, and she’s just been using him to get to SB so she can have magic.

"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

[RumplesGirl]

@craxyfox wrote:

There seems to be a lot of resentment towards Tamara around the blog realm, and we’ve barely met her yet
Yea she looks a little sketchy from the promo, but most of this dislike seemed to form as soon as we knew that she’s Neal’s fiancée 😆

Oh yeah, I’ll admit it. I love SwanFire so I’m pretty anti-Tamara. BUT that promo makes her look like more than just a romantic obstacle. I think she’s playing a very deep game with August, Neal, and Greg.

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

[craxyfox]

I’m really interested to see how she knows August,if she does have bad plans then good luck to us all 😆
I guess the thing that bugs me is that quote about “fiancées are like walls”
I mean,anyone who is a fiancée just would not feel good about that statement at all 🙁

[Slurpeez]

@craxyfox wrote:

I guess the thing that bugs me is that quote about “fiancées are like walls”
I mean,anyone who is a fiancée just would not feel good about that statement at all 🙁

I’m pretty sure Jane Espenson, a screenwriter, made that comment in the context of TV show plots. The writers sit around trying to think of plot devices and create hurdles for the two lovers who are meant to be together. A typical plot device is a love triangle (think every teen drama you’ve ever seen), a comma, disapproving parents, different social classes, an engagement, etc…. It’s just like on Downton Abbey season 2 in which Matthew was suddenly engaged to Lavinia, even though everyone knew he and Mary were destined to be together.

"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

[Ziera]

True True, I agree with everything you said, Slurpeez.

May I just say MRJ is AMAZING as Baelfire?!?!?? He is just..perfect. I really really like him a lot. His acting is superb. That alone makes me ship swanfire more! 😆 So…sorry, Tamara…but not sorry.

*SWANFIRE* keeper of Neal's dream catcher

[naomi]

Hey guys ~

Have you seen the Canadian promo? So, at the end, someone says “Whatever it is you have, you deserve your fate.” (the vid cuts to August on the ground screaming)

Is it Tamara who’s saying that line? Does anyone know?

[Slurpeez]

@Naomi wrote:

Hey guys ~

Have you seen the Canadian promo? So, at the end, someone says “Whatever it is you have, you deserve your fate.” (the vid cuts to August on the ground screaming)

Is it Tamara who’s saying that line? Does anyone know?

There’s been a lot of speculation about that in this thread if you go back a few pages. My own take is that yes, it’s Tamara’s voice.

"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

[craxyfox]

@slurpeez108 wrote:

I’m pretty sure Jane Espenson, a screenwriter, made that comment in the context of TV show plots. The writers sit around trying to think of plot devices and create hurdles for the two lovers who are meant to be together. A typical plot device is a love triangle (think every teen drama you’ve ever seen), a comma, disapproving parents, different social classes, an engagement, etc…. It’s just like on Downton Abbey season 2 in which Matthew was suddenly engaged to Lavinia, even though everyone knew he and Mary were destined to be together.

aw okay then yea I guess I get it in the context of the show, was scared people might have meant that in the literal context otherwise I would never tell anyone if I was engaged 😆

And yea I also believe the voice at the end is Tamara’s

[kfchimera]

The “powers that be” for this show certainly are pretty cagey about everything, probably because they are creating plots that go beyond just the romantic subplots. So I can see it go a lot of ways, that Tamara is some ultra-devious schemer who is just pretending to be normal, or that Tamara is normal, but once she finds out about magic is determined to control it, or she is just utterly clueless and it isn’t her voice at all. I’m so bad at comparing voices that I thought it was the guy who recognized August as Pinnochio at first!

“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass

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