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@EvilQueen wrote:
Well, I was originally worried that with Henry not giving a crap about it, she will eventually give up but now they showed all that intimacy between mother and son and him appreciating her help and her attempts in redemption. He finally let her in (and even thanked for the blanket đ ), they are both making little steps towards getting back together and it will take time but it really gave me good feelings – Regina can finally see the hope that Henry will not reject her if she keeps on going this path, that surely it must give her strength to go through it.
Admittedly, I don’t think she will give up magic entirely, there will always be something that needs to be dealt with magic or even in her self defense – especially if Cora manages to get to SB! (Or Emma, fuming towards her and blaming her for EVERYTHING)
I know she will struggle but she’s heading in the right direction! Now she reminded herself how to love and everything – she has a new goal in her life and she won’t give up so easily on it!Oh yeah, that blanket scene was too adorable, and I do agree that if Henry keeps encouraging her, she will manage to completely redeem herself, though it may take a while. A long while. Maybe until his high school graduation? đ
@EvilQueen wrote:
As for your question – I actually hope it IS EvilQueen, because it would add a REALLY interesting story to it but you are right, the whole thing, even her tone of her voice seemed off. And playing with Hook’s hook, well, as we saw in tonight’s episode, that clearly is a Cora’s thing!
Plus, the clothing. Her dress was all blue, and I don’t think we’ve ever seen the Evil Queen wear blue, have we? Cora on the other hand, that’s practically all she wears. But I really do HOPE that it’s Regina, don’t get me wrong, it’s just that the promo has made me wonder…
[adrotate group="5"]@EvilQueen wrote:
I know, Hannah, I was thinking that too, I don’t want Henry to turn back on Regina but he’s sort of the same kind of douche as Charming – he will just jump into black and white conclusions and will not even try to understand…
Earlier this season, Henry asked Emma to make sure his mother didn’t die. Emma honoured that wish, even though she’s got no love for Regina. Now Regina is seemingly rather determined to go ahead with something that will likely kill Henry’s other mother, even though she knows how that would break Henry’s heart if anything happened to Emma, and he’s screaming and begging her not to do it. But Henry’s the douche? OK.
@Hannah97 wrote:
Oh, and I feel I need to raise this question, because it’s been bugging me ever since I first saw the promo. Was that really Regina in the flashbacks with Hook, or was it Cora in disguise? I know I’m probably the only one thinking this, but something just seemed a little bit off about her and she seemed to be acting more like Cora than herself, but I don’t know. It’s been a while since we’ve seen Regina in full Evil Queen mode, maybe I just need a refresher.
Good thinking. I wonder if this might be a flashback to when they kidnapped Henry Sr and took him to Wonderland. Maybe Cora disguised herself as Regina to bait a trap.
Evidently I took the well scene in a different light. Regina and Rumple looked to me like they were trying to capture Cora before she emerged. I think Emma and Snow show up instead and ruin their plan. It just never occurred to me that Gold and Regina were trying to hurt Emma and Snow on the promo.
Keeper of Rumplestiltskin's and Neal's spears and war paint and crystal ball.
There was an ep summary a while back that said something along the lines of them rigging the portal to kill anyone who comes through it. That made me think that they didn’t much care if Snow and Emma got caught in the crossfire, they just wanted to stop Cora at all costs.
@Josephine wrote:
Evidently I took the well scene in a different light. Regina and Rumple looked to me like they were trying to capture Cora before she emerged. I think Emma and Snow show up instead and ruin their plan. It just never occurred to me that Gold and Regina were trying to hurt Emma and Snow on the promo.
I don’t think they are trying to hurt Emma and Snow at all either. That’s a really good point, they probably figured out somehow that the Well is where a portal will appear, and are trying to stop Cora before she can get through, or trap her as she comes through. That plan might involve some risk should someone else (say, Snow and Emma) come through first instead of Cora, and Henry may think they definitely will, while Rumple and Regina are willing to take that risk. It would explain that line, “You’re gonna kill them!” from Henry, and also why Regina holds him back. Did that make sense?
And I like that idea that Lake Nostos is somehow connected to the well in Storybrooke, through the water or something. And it makes a lot of sense, since the well returned magic to Storybrooke and August said something about the water returning what has been lost, and we know that is the magical propriety of Lake Nostos.
Regina and Rumple believe that Charming has failed in reaching Snow, meaning that Cora must be coming. They just want to kill HER before she gets through, while Henry, of course, hasn’t given up hope, hence the yelling. Plus if they do go ahead with the imposter thing, that could be what is happening there. If they do that, seems to me that they’ll figure out the truth right quick when Snow can’t wake Charming!
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I like that imposter idea. That it is really Cora we see disguised as Regina.
That is also food for thought too what someone mentioned earlier, about the Emma and the Snow we see in pictures coming back to Storybrook is actually Hook and Cora..
So when they come up through the well and Henry sees his mother and Snow and yells “Your killing them!!” THAT is really Hook and Cora coming up through the well…We didn’t see any hint at Wonderland in this sneak peak, or any Jefferson, or any red veiled hearts queen… But I hope we will get too see what the connection is there. We must when the title is the Queen of hearts.
Personally, I just think Gold and Regina are desperate to keep Cora out of Storybrooke. Theyâre not purposely trying to hurt Snow and Emma. Besides, killing Emma probably isnât high on Goldâs priority list. He still needs her for that favor she owes him. So, I donât see him trying to kill Emma.
@WeWereCursed! wrote:
Regina and Rumple believe that Charming has failed in reaching Snow, meaning that Cora must be coming. They just want to kill HER before she gets through, while Henry, of course, hasn’t given up hope, hence the yelling. Plus if they do go ahead with the imposter thing, that could be what is happening there. If they do that, seems to me that they’ll figure out the truth right quick when Snow can’t wake Charming!
True. There’s definitely some holes right now; although I think that they can be got around depending on how they do an impostor story line if they do it. In order to keep Cora hidden in Storybrooke since I do believe that she and Hook either arrive before Emma and Snow or at the same time only perhaps in a different location while everyone else is focused on Emma’s and Snow’s arrival, and not have to use Barbara Hershey that much since she’s not a regular unfortunately, the impostor theory seems like a good way to go get around having her seem like a really big threat yet not have to use the actress all the time until they’re ready for the battles between Hook/Cora and everyone else to happen. If she’s pretending to be someone else, then she can gain intelligence on her enemies while at the same time manipulating them. If she she’s just hiding out as a rat or some kind of creature or hiding in the woods, I don’t think she could inflict as much damage over the long run in Storybrooke.
I like that imposter idea. That it is really Cora we see disguised as Regina.
That is also food for thought too what someone mentioned earlier, about the Emma and the Snow we see in pictures coming back to Storybrook is actually Hook and Cora..
So when they come up through the well and Henry sees his mother and Snow and yells “Your killing them!!” THAT is really Hook and Cora coming up through the well…Welcome aboard. A lot of people have already theorized that the scene in the promo between Regina and Hook may actually be Cora and Hook. Regina does seem to have a lot of the same mannerisms and is dressed in a similar way as her mom. It may just be to show how alike they became, but maybe it really isn’t Regina.
We do know that Archie will be in trouble in episode 10, and that seems like such a Cora thing to do going after Archie, the only person that Regina can go to open up to right now, to get back at her daughter. I don’t know if she’ll pretend to be Regina or perhaps someone else in that episode, but if she wanted to inflict the most damage to Regina, she pretends to be her to get rid of Archie in someway making sure that she’s seen as Regina that way the whole town goes against her again especially Henry. He’s probably already going to be a little bit mad that she apparently curses Emma the moment Emma arrives back into town, but if he thinks she killed Archie or played some part in hurting him, since I don’t know if they’ll actually kill off Archie, they’re relationship is going to be even worse than before. Sure Regina has been good so far about not using magic, but if she’s in a worse spot before with Henry knowing that she’s really innocent, and getting to see Henry with the Charmings, is just going to send her over the edge again.
ETA: Sorry I missed your post Hannah, I wasn’t sure if it was on here or somewhere else where I read that. I agree though that it seems more like Cora as Regina than Regina in the promo.
@Midnight Dreary wrote:
Personally, I just think Gold and Regina are desperate to keep Cora out of Storybrooke. Theyâre not purposely trying to hurt Snow and Emma. Besides, killing Emma probably isnât high on Goldâs priority list. He still needs her for that favor she owes him. So, I donât see him trying to kill Emma.
Yes, I agree. It appears that the main purpose of the spelled portal is to keep Cora and Hook out of Storybrooke. So, their intentions are not to harm Snow and Emma, but to keep Hook and Cora out. And Mr. Gold canât afford to lose that favor Emma owes him. He needs her to retrieve Baelfire and we still donât know what purpose the Savior is meant to play in post-cursed Storybrooke. I wouldnât be surprised if thereâs more that Mr. Gold requires of her.
Having said that, Rumpel and Reginaâs plan obviously doesnât work because we see Emma and Snow reuniting with their family and friends in behind the scenes photos. Unless the whole âimposter theoryâ turns out to be true.
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