the ratings are worrying.

[marilou]

The first season’s rating were good but not extraordinary. Now were in the second season and it does not seem to improve, in fact it’s getting worst and worst every episode. 7 million viewers is not enough to keep the show afloat. could we be watching the last season of Once Upon a Time?

[Slurpeez]

@Marilou wrote:

The first season’s rating were good but not extraordinary. Now were in the second season and it does not seem to improve, in fact it’s getting worst and worst every episode. 7 million viewers is not enough to keep the show afloat. could we be watching the last season of Once Upon a Time?

I don’t think so. Last Sunday was the Grammys, and the week before was the Superbowl. “Tiny” wasn’t the most compelling storyline, but I think the series will pick up a lot of viewers in this week’s “Manhattan.”

"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

[obisgirl]

I’m not worried about the ratings because Nielson ratings system is the most outdated system in the whole world.

It’ll die one day and I will be having a party when that happens 😀

[RumplesGirl]

I agree with Slurpeez. And if you look comparatively, during those big events like the Grammys or Superbowl, OUaT is the highest watched episode outside of those big events. So even though Tiny took a huge hit because of the Grammy’s, it was still the second most watched thing in it’s time slot on major networks. I think Manhattan will see a really big jump.

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

[sarah_tn]

@Marilou wrote:

The first season’s rating were good but not extraordinary. Now were in the second season and it does not seem to improve, in fact it’s getting worst and worst every episode. 7 million viewers is not enough to keep the show afloat. could we be watching the last season of Once Upon a Time?

Neilsen is outdated, but is still used as a point of reference. That being said, I wouldn’t worry too much, not yet. Now if ratings don’t pick up by the end of the season, we might need to have concern for whether we’ll see a completion of season 3. Let’s just see if fans are happy ’cause if they are, they’ll watch the show. If they watch the show, the ratings will go up.

[spinninggold]

I think with a nomination list like this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_awards_and_nominations_received_by_Once_Upon_a_Time they are fine…. But maybe we can look out for a few people contests, and nominate them as often as we can…. The more prizes they get, the more likely they are to stay for a LONG time.

Which reminds me… must complain to Dutch channel, ask them what they are up to by planning another series at the time the last episode of season 1 should air.

[sarah_tn]

@SpinningGold wrote:

I think with a nomination list like this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_awards_and_nominations_received_by_Once_Upon_a_Time they are fine…. But maybe we can look out for a few people contests, and nominate them as often as we can…. The more prizes they get, the more likely they are to stay for a LONG time.

Which reminds me… must complain to Dutch channel, ask them what they are up to by planning another series at the time the last episode of season 1 should air.

The nomination list is good, but that’s just people patting eachother on the back. How can a show stay on tv though, if the ratings stay bad? I’m not saying OUAT’s ratings are “bad”, but where would an anchor hold it down if they were? That’s one thing that really made me mad about “Last Resort”, “Jericho”, and the first season of “Touch” (it’s back on tv again – yay!!!–). These were great shows that got great reviews, but got the boot because nobody watched them. Why would Once Upon A Time be any different? “Body of Proof” is another one, but it’s also supposed to be coming back. I hope so, because there are some really great shows out there that don’t get the credit they deserve.

[spinninggold]

@Sarah_TN wrote:

The nomination list is good, but that’s just people patting eachother on the back. How can a show stay on tv though, if the ratings stay bad? I’m not saying OUAT’s ratings are “bad”, but where would an anchor hold it down if they were? That’s one thing that really made me mad about “Last Resort”, “Jericho”, and the first season of “Touch” (it’s back on tv again – yay!!!–). These were great shows that got great reviews, but got the boot because nobody watched them. Why would Once Upon A Time be any different? “Body of Proof” is another one, but it’s also supposed to be coming back. I hope so, because there are some really great shows out there that don’t get the credit they deserve.

All the more reason for us as fans to get them nominated for whatever we can… And the show really picked up in the Netherlands… the commercials during the breaks have DOUBLED…. Now if that’s a good thing… Well it gives me time to catch up with you lot during the show 😆

[Myril]

It’s always good to get them nominated and vote for them as fan whenever and wherever possible. Show them some love. Regardless from the ratings.

Now the ratings. Often feared, often misunderstood. :ugeek:

Of course for a network it is somewhat interesting to see how their show did compared with everything else in general and in particular aired during the same time slot – but it’s not the most important number for their decision. More important is, how the show did compared to the average rating of the network (and every show, even something like single event shows as Grammys or Superbowl and sports, is included in that average). And even more interesting, how they did in the for commercials interesting demographic group of age 18-49. Actually, it’s not even interesting, how many people watch a show, really interesting for business is, how many people watch the commercials shown before, after and during a show (Nielsen does evaluate that too, but those numbers are not open data). That is why so far DVR is not of that much interest for ratings, not if people skip the commercials. Same goes for any internet streaming. But they have noticed that this might be something not to underestimate. As well they have noticed that social media might offer some interesting data as well to judge, how interesting a show might be for commercials even, so in fall this year Nielsen will beginn in collaberation with Twitter to evaluate Twitter data regularly. And how many people watch a show is an important but not the only factor for how much money you can take for ad time.

That said, take another look at past Sunday’s ratings.
ABC has at the moment an average rating of 2.3 among 18-49 (now that is an overall average, as far as I can tell, source for all numbers: “TV by the numbers”). Past Sunday’s rating was 2.2 – so okay compared to average. Sure, could be better, Grey’s Anatomy had some 3.1 rating past week, but they had not to go against the Grammys. A share of 5 percent (share of audience age 18-49) was not dazzling but Fox coming in third wasn’t better. Once Upon a time had though like 3-4 million more viewers than Fox (all viewers), a sign that Once Upon a Time attracts probably some more kids and more 50+, a real family show. True, ratings had been better on other Sundays, 3.1/8 (rating/share) for the winter final, season premiere had even 3.9/10, so it’s a low for the show, but not yet something to get big time worried about in my opinion. Not yet. And I share that view with a number of tv critics.

Disagree about the first season rating, Marilou, for ABC they were good. And it was the number one primetime non-sports show on Sundays.

If you want to keep an eye on the numbers:
TV by the Numbers
And for anyone on Twitter the offer @TheCancelBear to get news if shows are good for renewal, at risk, or cancelled.

The site Futon Critic is a good source for a lot of information and news about most shows, including info about ratings, although those number are maybe for advanced interpretation. Go here for Once Upon a Time

And if you interested in how the numbers look for Twitter, go toSocialGuide Intteligence

For the fans of data visualisation: Infographic Reveals The Top Social TV Shows & Movies Of 2012

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[sarah_tn]

@myril wrote:

It’s always good to get them nominated and vote for them as fan whenever and wherever possible. Show them some love. Regardless from the ratings.

Now the ratings. Often feared, often misunderstood. :ugeek:

Of course for a network it is somewhat interesting to see how their show did compared with everything else in general and in particular aired during the same time slot – but it’s not the most important number for their decision. More important is, how the show did compared to the average rating of the network (and every show, even something like single event shows as Grammys or Superbowl and sports, is included in that average). And even more interesting, how they did in the for commercials interesting demographic group of age 18-49. Actually, it’s not even interesting, how many people watch a show, really interesting for business is, how many people watch the commercials shown before, after and during a show (Nielsen does evaluate that too, but those numbers are not open data). That is why so far DVR is not of that much interest for ratings, not if people skip the commercials. Same goes for any internet streaming. But they have noticed that this might be something not to underestimate. As well they have noticed that social media might offer some interesting data as well to judge, how interesting a show might be for commercials even, so in fall this year Nielsen will beginn in collaberation with Twitter to evaluate Twitter data regularly. And how many people watch a show is an important but not the only factor for how much money you can take for ad time.

That said, take another look at past Sunday’s ratings.
ABC has at the moment an average rating of 2.3 among 18-49 (now that is an overall average, as far as I can tell, source for all numbers: “TV by the numbers”). Past Sunday’s rating was 2.2 – so okay compared to average. Sure, could be better, Grey’s Anatomy had some 3.1 rating past week, but they had not to go against the Grammys. A share of 5 percent (share of audience age 18-49) was not dazzling but Fox coming in third wasn’t better. Once Upon a time had though like 3-4 million more viewers than Fox (all viewers), a sign that Once Upon a Time attracts probably some more kids and more 50+, a real family show. True, ratings had been better on other Sundays, 3.1/8 (rating/share) for the winter final, season premiere had even 3.9/10, so it’s a low for the show, but not yet something to get big time worried about in my opinion. Not yet. And I share that view with a number of tv critics.

Disagree about the first season rating, Marilou, for ABC they were good. And it was the number one primetime non-sports show on Sundays.

If you want to keep an eye on the numbers:
TV by the Numbers
And for anyone on Twitter the offer @TheCancelBear to get news if shows are good for renewal, at risk, or cancelled.

The site Futon Critic is a good source for a lot of information and news about most shows, including info about ratings, although those number are maybe for advanced interpretation. Go here for Once Upon a Time

And if you interested in how the numbers look for Twitter, go toSocialGuide Intteligence

For the fans of data visualisation: Infographic Reveals The Top Social TV Shows & Movies Of 2012

Thanks for the info, Myril.

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