THE REAL BIG BAD!!! Theories

[Chris]

@medchen wrote:

So Chris let me understand you right.You believe that it was something about the original power(Blue) that ‘in the dawn of time’ created The Dark One or more correctly the ‘power’ of the dark one. And then perhabs because it was an accident or that Blue changed her mind and wants to destroy the power of the dark one, she then set all the event that we have seen in motion in order to make that destruction happen ??

No Medchen that would be to elaborate a plan for something, the flick of a knife could do. I believe, or rather, I wouldn’t put it past the Blue Fairy, to have created the first “Dark One” for some sinister reason or other. Perhaps she had always planned to one day use him to bring the Dark Curse to the Enchanted Forest. Of course she also needed a safety valve should the dark power become to strong, so she crated the knife that could control or kill the Dark One.

This is why she knows about the dagger and could tell August all about it. If you look at the events in “The Return”, August talks to Mother Superior. Why would he talk to a nun? What possible help could she be to him in this situation? He knows who she is and my guess is, she knew too and was not affected by the curse.

I belive that Blue is the true mastermind behind the curse. She wanted all those people here for a specific reason. Maybe for the “Final Battle” we keep hearing about, maybe for something completely different. This is why she deliberately seperated Baelfire from Rumple and set in motion the the events that have come to pass since then.

But I also believe that she didn’t expect Emma to get Henry and even less for him to be the son of Bae and Emma. And as in all good fairytales, this somehow will spoil her masterplan in the end.

Ok enough rambling from my part, this is the crackpot theory I’m running with. 😛

[Keb]

It’s a fascinating theory, but I’m not sure how well it’ll hold up. I don’t think Blue could have known for sure that Rumple wouldn’t go with Bae; as she said to him, “You had the way. You didn’t take it.” He made a deliberate, if panicked, choice in that moment, and it was his choice to make.

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[Grimmsister]

@Chris wrote:

No Medchen that would be to elaborate a plan for something, the flick of a knife could do. I believe, or rather, I wouldn’t put it past the Blue Fairy, to have created the first “Dark One” for some sinister reason or other. Perhaps she had always planned to one day use him to bring the Dark Curse to the Enchanted Forest. Of course she also needed a safety valve should the dark power become to strong, so she crated the knife that could control or kill the Dark One.

This is why she knows about the dagger and could tell August all about it. If you look at the events in “The Return”, August talks to Mother Superior. Why would he talk to a nun? What possible help could she be to him in this situation? He knows who she is and my guess is, she knew too and was not affected by the curse.

I belive that Blue is the true mastermind behind the curse. She wanted all those people here for a specific reason. Maybe for the “Final Battle” we keep hearing about, maybe for something completely different. This is why she deliberately seperated Baelfire from Rumple and set in motion the the events that have come to pass since then.

But I also believe that she didn’t expect Emma to get Henry and even less for him to be the son of Bae and Emma. And as in all good fairytales, this somehow will spoil her masterplan in the end.

Ok enough rambling from my part, this is the crackpot theory I’m running with. 😛

Okay I understood you wrong then.
I have been in favor of the Big Bad Blue theory since forever, but not ruling out that she could have ‘so called’ good intensions in mind, behind all the scheming and string pulling.

Upon reading your previous post (and understanding it wrongly mind you) it got me thinking that- The Original power that Blue supposedly is- is like a God or The God. And doesn’t the story in the Old Testament, about Lucifer, go something like- Lucifer was originally Gods favorite Angle until it did something to defy God and go against his wishes- That is how Lucifer became a fallen Angel and the personification of evil…? So I’m thinking something like this:
*The Blue Fairy=God
*The Dark One=Lucifer(the devil)
*The Dark One was ones good and on the same side as The Blue Fairy (and called something else but dark- Maybe The Light One? Think about how Lucifer actually translates from, is it Latin I think, into The Light One)
*So The Light One was a force of good, until the day He/She did something to defy The Blue Fairy (hrm! used His/Hers own free will) and therefore was cast out, and became the Dark One.

So now The Blue Fairy is trying to ‘correct her mistake’ so to speak, meaning destroy the power of the Dark One (the power being the Dark Ones free will??) Blue therefore creates the dagger- With the dagger the Dark one has no free will- but Blue cannot control the dagger…She is trying to Undo The Dark One :hence- ‘The boy will be your undoing’…. So something about the curse and everything that’s happened has been for Blue to get back in control and eliminate free will in the human beings/fairytale characters 😕 ❓ ❓ Some of this is just written as the thoughts came to me so it’s a bit messy, I was just throwing it all out there 😀 What’s all you guys think, is it far out, or a complete mess of non-understandable words?

[Grimmsister]

I would love comments on this theory-

The Original power that Blue supposedly is- is like a God or The God. And doesn’t the story in the Old Testament, about Lucifer, go something like- Lucifer was originally Gods favorite Angle until it did something to defy God and go against his wishes- That is how Lucifer became a fallen Angel and the personification of evil…? So I’m thinking something like this:
*The Blue Fairy=God
*The Dark One=Lucifer(the devil)
*The Dark One was ones good and on the same side as The Blue Fairy (and called something else but dark- Maybe The Light One? Think about how Lucifer actually translates from, is it Latin I think, into The Light One)
*So The Light One was a force of good, until the day He/She did something to defy The Blue Fairy (hrm! used His/Hers own free will) and therefore was cast out, and became the Dark One.
What you think ❓

So now The Blue Fairy is trying to ‘correct her mistake’ so to speak, meaning destroy the power of the Dark One (the power being the Dark Ones free will??) Blue therefore creates the dagger- With the dagger the Dark one has no free will- but Blue cannot control the dagger…She is trying to Undo The Dark One :hence- ‘The boy will be your undoing’…. So something about the curse and everything that’s happened has been for Blue to get back in control and eliminate free will in the human beings/fairytale characters ❓

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