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Any magic is now possible because of the wand. In Once Upon a Time in Wonderland the laws of magic were broken by Jafar and Amara. Let’s look at what laws were broken. Jafar used magic to make his father love him. Anastasia was brought back from the dead. We for sure have had time travel from Zelena as well as we do not know if other time travel occurred anywhere in the realms during the short period of time that the laws of magic were broken. All three laws have now been broken. If the wand can recreate any magic that’s ever been wielded it should be able to recreate the three rules that were broken.
Here is a quote from Snow Drifts when Emma and Hook go to see Rumple and he tells them about the wand.
“There’s a powerful wand, which, uh…I came to possess. Anyway, legend says it can recreate any magic that’s ever been wielded.”
When Emma and Hook return for the wand…
“Well, what about this wand you said that could help us?”
“Oh, that. Well, apparently only those who used the portal can reopen it. So unless you can wield magic,
I’m afraid you’re going nowhere.”So….who is going to go after the wand and what will they do with it?
I think we all suspect that Henry might have magic. Remember Rumples dream…Henry picked a wand for his birthday present and then Rumple turned him into a ceramic Henry and broke him. Henry might take the wand, wield magic and bring Neal back from the dead.
What about Rumple…he might do the same thing.
Who else has used magic…and could be tempted to use the wand to do forbidden things.
So far those that we have seen that can use magic…
Emma
Regina
Cora – don’t think she is fully dead and gone
Tinkerbell-
Anastasia-
Cyrus-
Sydney-
Belle-
Blue Fairy-
etc.That wand is the new forbidden fruit….ANYTHING could happen on this show from here.
I think if they bring Neal back he will be Baelfire and he will be in a different form. I don’t think it will have a good outcome.
Star Trek connection…..what is it that fully made Anakin into Darth Vader…it was the death of his wife. What if Henry has magic…will he try to raise his father from the dead? We saw little sweet Owen and how his desire to avenge his father’s death turned him into Nasty Big Owen. If Henry uses the wand will the consequence be his own darkness? Oh MY this could play out so many different ways.
Someone is going to really, really, mess things up.
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All three laws have now been broken. If the wand can recreate any magic that’s ever been wielded it should be able to recreate the three rules that were broken.
All three laws were un-broken when Jafar became a genie. The laws of magic are back in place. It’s not possible to re-break them unless they have three genies, and all of them have been freed.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"It’s also been said in a few interviews with Adam & Eddy that major plot lines from Wonderland wouldn’t be carried over to the parent show. They made Wonderland as a show for non Once viewers to be able to jump in, while not all Once viewers watched Wonderland. Like RumplesGirl said, the laws of magic are no longer broken anyway. That was made clear when Jafar’s magic law breaking actions were reversed, including the people he resurrected.
As input here, what Jafar and Amara did COULD be replicated with three more genies. I don’t think Cyrus and his bros were the only genies in existence. We know Sydney was a genie probably before they ever were. So I think its POSSIBLE to recreate what jafar did. I doubt the writers will go down that line
"I could have the giant duck as my steed!" --Daniel Radcliffe
Keeper Of Tamara's Taser , Jafar's Staff, Kitsis’s Glasses , Ariel’s Tail, Dopey's Hat , Peter Pan’s Shadow, Outfit, & Pied Cloak,Red Queen's Castle, White Rabbit's Power To World Hop, Zelena's BroomStick, & ALL MAGICAs input here, what Jafar and Amara did COULD be replicated with three more genies. I don’t think Cyrus and his bros were the only genies in existence. We know Sydney was a genie probably before they ever were. So I think its POSSIBLE to recreate what jafar did. I doubt the writers will go down that line
you’re right. POSSIBLE. but POSSIBLE is not PROBABLE. It’s pretty improbable for the reasons Matt stated.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"It’s also been said in a few interviews with Adam & Eddy that major plot lines from Wonderland wouldn’t be carried over to the parent show. They made Wonderland as a show for non Once viewers to be able to jump in, while not all Once viewers watched Wonderland. Like RumplesGirl said, the laws of magic are no longer broken anyway. That was made clear when Jafar’s magic law breaking actions were reversed, including the people he resurrected.
The laws were unbroken…that is correct. They said that plot lines would not carry over. It comes down to semantics. Plot lines can mean different things. You have to look at what does intersect with Once Upon a Time and Once Upon a Time Wonderland. What intersects is the wand, Will Scarlet and Robin Hood. The Rabbit and Will Scarlet were in Storybrooke at the beginning of OUATW. Alice and Cyrus came to Storybrooke to get back the Knave’s heart. Robin Hood is in an episode of OUATW. Robin Hood stole the wand from Rumple in OUAT episode. The theft is alluded to in a Wonderland episode, so the wand has already connected both stories.
Even though the laws of magic were returned to normal that is not relevant to the description of the wands actions. The wand is described as having the ability to recreate any magic that has ever been wielded. Because that magic was wielded…it can be recreated. Emma did not have to break the magic law of time travel. All she had to do was use the wand to return.
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Even though the laws of magic were returned to normal that is not relevant to the description of the wands actions. The wand is described as having the ability to recreate any magic that has ever been wielded. Because that magic was wielded…it can be recreated. Emma did not have to break the magic law of time travel. All she had to do was use the wand to return.
But the Black Fairies wand isn’t the same as the one Robin stole. Robin stole the wand of the Fairy Godmother, and we saw when Rumpel took possession of that wand in S1 and killed the godmother fairy. Chronologically, the two wands can’t be the same. Rump didn’t have the fairy godmother wand until after Snow and Charming were together but based on what he said in the S3 finale he already possessed the black fairies wand. So yeah, the two wands dont seem to be the same one and plus they said we haven’t seen the black fairy yet and we have seen the fairy godmother so they can’t be the same wands
"I could have the giant duck as my steed!" --Daniel Radcliffe
Keeper Of Tamara's Taser , Jafar's Staff, Kitsis’s Glasses , Ariel’s Tail, Dopey's Hat , Peter Pan’s Shadow, Outfit, & Pied Cloak,Red Queen's Castle, White Rabbit's Power To World Hop, Zelena's BroomStick, & ALL MAGICI should have been more clear so thanks for the details Watcher. The wand that has the power to recreate any magic ever wielded….the one Emma used to open the time portal…that is the wand that I am talking about. The Wonderland and OUAT stories overlap with Will Scarlet and Robin Hood. It is interesting that they introduced Robin Hood with a wand story and that Will Scarlet will be joining OUAT.
The wand that brought Emma back….if staying true to semantics and the writers are huge when it comes to semantics, the wand should be able to recreate any magic that has ever been wielded. Has magic been wielded that brought someone back from the dead? Yes. Has magic been wielded that made someone love someone else? Yes. Has magic been wielded that allowed someone to change the past? Yes. The wand should be able to recreate that magic whether or not the laws of magic were restored.
Time will tell but I think someone is going to use that wand. I think that someone might be Henry and I think he might use it to bring back his father.
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The wand that brought Emma back….if staying true to semantics and the writers are huge when it comes to semantics, the wand should be able to recreate any magic that has ever been wielded. Has magic been wielded that brought someone back from the dead? Yes. Has magic been wielded that made someone love someone else? Yes. Has magic been wielded that allowed someone to change the past? Yes. The wand should be able to recreate that magic whether or not the laws of magic were restored.
Emma did not bring that wand back. It was left behind in Rumple’s vault. He picks it up, wonders why he is in the vault and POOFs out.
Also you seem to be suggesting that this wand can do X when wands have never been proved to do X. You say “it should” be able to do these things yet we’ve never seen a wands do those things.
When someone was brought back from the dead it was because the laws, in WL, were broken.
Same with making someone love someone and changing the past. None of this required a wand.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"Remember when Henry went down to Regina’s vault? If Rumple has a bloodlock on his vault, or cabinet, or safe well Henry will be able to open it. I think Henry is going to get the wand and bring Neal back. Emma and Rumple were talking about Neal right before she returned to her normal time. She was telling Rumple he had to drink the potion and forget the details of the future and let Neal die a hero. She told him he might make it worse. So, we have Rumple with the temptation of Zelena…his son alive in the past and the temptation to travel back and not ever abandon him to begin with. This could happen. We also have Henry (who may or may not have magic) who if he has magic could be tempted to bring Neal back to the present. I think they have laid a good foundation for this being a plausible story.
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