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The Rules of Magic

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  • October 17, 2013 at 8:52 pm #216760
    RumplesGirl
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    Tonight Cyrus gave the rules of magic. There are 4

    1) Cannot bring back people from the dead

    2) Cannot change the past

    3) Cannot make anyone fall in love

    4) He cannot kill

    Knowing this, what does Jafar wish for the Genie to do once Alice has spent her wishes?

     

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    October 17, 2013 at 9:10 pm #216766
    RumplesGirl
    Keymaster

    Headcanon: Jafar lost his sister Narsia and wants to bring her back from the dead. He’s hoping Cyrus will be able to break the rules of magic.

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    October 17, 2013 at 9:50 pm #216785
    tiara_rose
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    Maybe he wish exactly that what he said: I wish to change the rules of magic. or simply to be given the power to resurect dead people himself. I mean Cyruy can’t do that but maybe he can give other people the power to be the exception of the rules.

    Heros don't get their Happy Ending!

    October 17, 2013 at 9:59 pm #216786
    Slurpeez
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    Maybe he wish exactly that what he said: I wish to change the rules of magic. or simply to be given the power to resurect dead people himself. I mean Cyruy can’t do that but maybe he can give other people the power to be the exception of the rules.

    Good point! Loop holes….

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    October 17, 2013 at 10:48 pm #216798
    TheWatcher
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    Maybe he wish exactly that what he said: I wish to change the rules of magic. or simply to be given the power to resurect dead people himself. I mean Cyruy can’t do that but maybe he can give other people the power to be the exception of the rules.

    I doubt this. I think the can’t kill rule is one that is simply Genie code, u CAN use magic to kill someone but u are forbidden to. But the others seem to be magical limits, meaning its just impossible to accomplish. However I think the the change the past rule is possible but forbidden for genies.

    Really. This whole thing with rules of magic confuses me. Do they apply to genies or every magic user? I f so then why did Jafar just use magic to turn a bunch of peasants into dust if u can’t kill with magic.

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    October 17, 2013 at 10:55 pm #216801
    RumplesGirl
    Keymaster

    Really. This whole thing with rules of magic confuses me. Do they apply to genies or every magic user? I f so then why did Jafar just use magic to turn a bunch of peasants into dust if u can’t kill with magic.

    I think they might just apply to Genies. Because obviously magic users like Regina and Rumple have no problem.

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    October 17, 2013 at 10:59 pm #216805
    obisgirl
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    Actually, I think Rumple said something similar to Regina in The Doctor.  You can’t use magic to bring someone back from the dead.

    October 17, 2013 at 11:04 pm #216810
    RumplesGirl
    Keymaster

    Actually, I think Rumple said something similar to Regina in The Doctor. You can’t use magic to bring someone back from the dead.

    Dead. Is dead. (of course this is almost negated by the fact that they did sorta bring Daniel back….)

    However, I wonder if GENIES can. In Aladdin when the blue Genie is telling Aladdin the rules he says he doesn’t LIKE bringing people back from the dead because it’s not pretty.

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    October 17, 2013 at 11:06 pm #216812
    obisgirl
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    Aladdin’s genie was right.  Look at Daniel. He didn’t come back right.  I don’t genie’s magic isn’t that different from magic magic.  I think the same rules would apply.

    October 17, 2013 at 11:09 pm #216814
    RumplesGirl
    Keymaster

    Aladdin’s genie was right. Look at Daniel. He didn’t come back right. I don’t genie’s magic isn’t that different from magic magic. I think the same rules would apply.

    That’s true too. But maybe Jafar doesn’t know that or doesn’t CARE? Running theme: desperate souls do desperate things. Maybe he wants his sister/brother/lover back so much that he’ll do anything. You know how they like to play with villains

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