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March 28, 2016 at 9:21 am #320163PanTheManParticipant
Couldn’t Zelena’s connection to Hades explain how she was able to return to life and become Mariann? I know they’ve already explained it in the show, but was there more to it? Technically she did cheat death. Seems like that would get Hades’ attention.
Is it possible that Zelena’s baby is actually Hades’ child and not Robins?
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[adrotate group="5"]March 28, 2016 at 9:38 am #320164nonnieParticipantThey once said they would not go into mythology … and where are we now?
When did they say that?? We had mythology as early as S1 with King Midas.
I really doubt Hades is Baby Pistachio’s father. The timing doesn’t add up.
Might have been a TWITTER response once way back when I was on twitter a lot…. I also vaguely remember it being in a interview ….. I do know other podcasters have made the same comments about ONCE being on mythology. And I think it was in response to questions about KING MIDAS that they said ONCE would not be going into mythology.
But I stand by my statement A&E try really hard to avoid revealing good guesses.
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.March 28, 2016 at 1:26 pm #320182MatthewPaulModeratorI guess this is the fitting thread to post this. One of the pages is legit original writing about Hades, and is readable, too!
Here’s a full transcript:
Hades rolled over in his bed with a lazy yawn. His face caught the harsh, blood-red Underworld sunlight pouring into his vaulted bedroom and he squinted. Some how he had overslept. Wiping the sleep out of his eyes, he wondered why his alarm clock didn’t go off. In his case, the alarm was the sound of a thousand freshly reaped souls screaming in torment. They usually wailed every morning on schedule as soon as they were deposited into his infernal river, obviating the need for him to enslave a lackey to wake him up. But for some reason on this particular morning, the souls never wailed. Not really thinking too much of it, Hades went about his morning rituals. He walked and fed his three-headed hellhound, Cerberus. He took a luxurious bath, then dried himself by the heat of his flaming hair. And he oversaw his cavernous domain from the top of a volcano while sipping a glass of fine brandy. It was only when he checked his soul-counter in his private lounge that he realized he had a problem. Inexplicably, it registered a paltry amount of a few dozen. Hades shook the counter to make sure the device was working properly, but the dial didn’t budge. His equipment was working fine. It was his soul count that was pitifully low. Hades shook his head and clenched his fist. There was little that put him in a worse mood than a low soul count. He felt like going out and drowning the first twenty restless spirits he came across in his infernal river, but he knew that wouldn’t solve his problem. To get to the bottom of the issue, he’d have to look at the soul-providers who fueled his supply up in the Overworld. Unfortunately, Hades didn’t have any real power when he journeyed above ground, and out of his domain. Even if he could figure out which of his admired cadre of murderers had stopped murdering, he’d have to find a creative way to get them to resume killing.
First he needed time to think. He took a stroll through the grimy, sulfur-laden streets, which teemed with sad, restless spirits. These were the souls who still had unfinished business hanging over their heads, weighing on their permanently silenced hearts. The spirits avoided eye contact with Hades, afraid he might unleash his wrath on them. But Hades stopped one for a chat. A small, bearded villager in tattered rags. His rags were blue, and seemed to have once been part of a proud outfit.
March 28, 2016 at 1:46 pm #320189PheeParticipantHe took a luxurious bath, then dried himself by the heat of his flaming hair
Well there’s a mental image.
So, he went to visit Zelena when she was taking time out from killing people for a while. He was all, “What’s gotten into you?” And she was all, “Can’t talk, plotting revenge on my wretched sister the Evil Queen who got a whole special, fancy town to rule over where everyone does whatever she wants.” And he was all, “Honey let me tell you about my brother, and let’s bond.” And then he fell for her, and was all, “Come back with me, I’ll make my world look just like your sister’s special, fancy town, so you can have one of your own to rule over as my Queen.” But she was all, “Nope, gotta be my sister’s, gotta take it away from her, gotta stay up here to plot revenge.” And she broke his heart. So she’s his weakness. And his failure. Which is why he doesn’t want anyone to know the story.
March 28, 2016 at 1:51 pm #320191thedarkonedearieParticipant–The key to defeating Hades is….Zelena’s love?? Ugh. No. But I fear that’s where they are going.
Oh God I really hope not.
March 28, 2016 at 1:53 pm #320192thedarkonedearieParticipantCouldn’t Zelena’s connection to Hades explain how she was able to return to life and become Mariann? I know they’ve already explained it in the show, but was there more to it? Technically she did cheat death. Seems like that would get Hades’ attention.
I find this to be quite interesting. It would explain a little better how she survived Rumple’s dagger stabbing.
March 28, 2016 at 5:39 pm #320211RumplesGirlKeymasterThe timeline doesn’t really add up for Hades to be Baby Pistachio’s father.
plus A and E already said no
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"March 28, 2016 at 5:45 pm #320216TheWatcherParticipantI really doubt Hades is Baby Pistachio’s father. The timing doesn’t add up.
Might be. I mean, Zelena did “die” and go back in time. It could have occurred then. Then she went and killed Marian and did that whole thing. It could work if they wanted it to. And it’d be a good way of separating regina/robin from Zelena if it turns out it was all a lie, then they can go on with their lives.
I doubt it will happen, since yes, A&E said no, but it could.
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"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"March 29, 2016 at 11:36 am #320288SlurpeezParticipantAdam Horowitz admitted a continuity error surronding a line Regina said when talking about ripping out her own story (something Henry, not Regina, actually did in S1):
@outlawgreys yes. That was a mistake. Hangs head in shame.
— Adam Horowitz (@AdamHorowitzLA) March 28, 2016
So, just goes to show important details often slip by.
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