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The Underworld and the Dark Curse

Home › Forums › Once Upon a Time › Season Five › 5×12 “Souls of the Departed” › The Underworld and the Dark Curse

  • This topic has 29 replies, 14 voices, and was last updated 9 years, 3 months ago by nevermore.
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  • March 7, 2016 at 3:00 pm #318266
    Jiminy’s Journal
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    What if Henry’s the savior? And Hades wants him out?

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    March 7, 2016 at 8:53 pm #318331
    darkones1fan
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    Yes, I think Hades is probably the one who created the Dark Curse. When you boil it down to its basics, the Dark Curse takes away Happy Endings, the very thing that Emma restores. I think Hades and Emma are being set up to be opposites of each other (the enemy of life, the savior or life;) It would make sense for him to have created the Dark Curse that she was destined to break.

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    So it wasn’t Merlin? I forget didn’t someone re-con say a Soccer create it or again am i just hearing things…My ONCE canon (little though their may be) Is kinda lose even with the Retcons.

     

    They better explain how Hades can relate to the Dark One if not by a connection (Though that may be possible) at least through who’s the oldest and more powerful of the two.

    March 7, 2016 at 10:09 pm #318361
    Gaultheria
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    Yes, I think Hades is probably the one who created the Dark Curse.

    Hades created the curse and sent it across the river on the black ferry?

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    March 8, 2016 at 10:04 am #318405
    thedarkonedearie
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    I think it will be very interesting to see how Hades is connected to the Dark Curse and to The Dark One.  I bet it is all connected.  Like maybe by creating the dark curse, the repercussions were creating this “dark evil darkness.”  Once this is revealed, perhaps we will go back to the Lily story line and they will tie that up going into next season.  I still think we are going to get the true origin story behind how the darkness officially came to be, and not just how Merlin tried to control it and who the first person to inhabit it was (Nimue).  How did it even exist?  I’m guessing Hades and I’m guessing it has something to do with the Dark Curse that he created, that Rumple later retrieved with the Queens of Darkness.

    March 8, 2016 at 10:13 am #318406
    TheWatcher
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    What if Henry’s the savior? And Hades wants him out?

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    Possible. but unlikely. Hades would have used Hook to tell Emma to leave then. It would have been more effective. It seems he wants everyone to stay, but he wants Regina gone.

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    March 8, 2016 at 2:09 pm #318452
    Slurpeez
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    I think Regina is being set up to be the savior of the UW, which was heavily foreshadowed at the start of S5 when she lied to King Arthur about being the savior. Also, the clock started moving again when Regina helped her father move on to a better place and decided to stay behind and help rest of residents of the UW resolve their unfinished business. This obviously parallels when Emma decided to stay in SB in season one to help Henry.

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    March 8, 2016 at 4:57 pm #318484
    nevermore
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    I think Regina is being set up to be the savior of the UW, which was heavily foreshadowed at the start of S5 when she lied to King Arthur about being the savior. Also, the clock started moving again when Regina helped her father move on to a better place and decided to stay behind and help rest of residents of the UW resolve their unfinished business. This obviously parallels when Emma decided to stay in SB in season one to help Henry.

    Yes, I think that’s right. And if there’s a connection between Hades and Zelena, then it makes me think that this is going to be a Regina-centric half-season.

    I think Hades is probably the origin of the Dark Curse, but I’m wondering whether he created it, or whether it is a more “primordial” evil, in the same way that the Dark One curse is a kind of corrupted original magic. And how does any of this relate back to the UW, soul accounting, unfinished business etc?

    Also, what are people making of the five weird colored “streams” in Hades’s throne room?

    March 8, 2016 at 5:01 pm #318485
    MatthewPaul
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    Also, what are people making of the five weird colored “streams” in Hades’s throne room?

    They seem to represent the five rivers of the Underworld: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_underworld#Rivers

    March 8, 2016 at 5:08 pm #318489
    RumplesGirl
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    Also, what are people making of the five weird colored “streams” in Hades’s throne room?

    I explained this in another thread on the Underworld and Hades. The colors even seem to line up with what the five rivers of Hades represent (Lethe being white for oblivion, for example)

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    March 8, 2016 at 8:44 pm #318501
    nevermore
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    nevermore wrote:

    Also, what are people making of the five weird colored “streams” in Hades’s throne room?

    They seem to represent the five rivers of the Underworld: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_underworld#Rivers

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    Gah! I didn’t even make the connection! Thanks 🙂 Ok, random theory — any reason to think that the forgetfulness curse might be somehow derived from Lethe? And the Dark Curse derived from Acheron?

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