The White Rabbit and Cora’s Heart

[antbee]

@tiara_rose wrote:

Maybe Cora turn Bae into a Rabbit for a while, or Jeff has a powder to turn him to a white Rabbit to hide him in his hat.

Yes, if Baelfire is the White Rabbit, then I think Cora or some other person with magical power must have turned him into an actual rabbit for it to fit. Unless he’s not actually turned into a white rabbit, but he did the duties of the White Rabbit and possesses the White Rabbit’s traits. So they do have a few outs as far as making Baelfire the White Rabbit without him actually being a real rabbit.

Interesting theory about him being the White Rabbit though. If they do have Nealfire be more than just Neal and Baelfire, I hope they just go nuts with it and make him more than just the White Rabbit, who I don’t think is that important in his story, and make him Peter Pan and the Wizard of Oz too, or if not the main characters at least have him be a minor character in those stories too.

Of course, at this time I sort of just want Nealfire to be himself because I can just read all the backlash already if they make him all these other characters since there’s a lot of backlash with his father being put into so many other people’s stories, but then again, if he is more than just Nealfire, I think it gives him more importance, not that he’s not already. It’s just that if there really is someone that might have a secret agenda in trying to get all these characters in place, it might explain why he was part of the equation along with Emma being a part because we already know why she is now because she’s the Savior. We don’t know why Bae might be though yet.

I hope it will not be Bae’s heart,. I do not like August and the Blue Fairy in the moment, but if there really Bae’s heart in there I will hate them. I mean the Blue Fairy could prevent the course 300 years ago, when she give the magic tree to Rumpelstiltskin. She should have known how desperate he was and August steal money and say he is the guardian angel. 👿

Yes, if there was a heart in the box, I hope it was Cora’s and not Neal’s. There would be that parallel between Graham and Neal though, but I don’t think Neal acted anything like Graham did since to me it didn’t seem like he had any trouble feeling at all. Of course, I don’t think Aurora had any trouble feeling at least guilty after her heart was taken, so I don’t know if it’s because her heart had only been removed shortly before that scene, or the writers just forgot or ignored what they wrote before about what happens to a person who is missing a heart.

[PriceofMagic]

I don’t think it was a heart in the box. If August assumed Neal was just an ordinary guy and not anyone magical then showing him a heart would be the best way to get him to freak out rather than believe.

All magic comes with a price!

Keeper of Felix

[playarita]

I do like this theory and I did notice the white rabbit references (his name is attached to Jefferson Airplane who has the song about Alice as well as referencing the Mad Hatter). The only thing that concerns me is why didn’t August destroy soon after if he knew it belonged to Cora. Unless there was an endgame plan where having the heart in his hands (and essentially on the good side) meant that Cora had to die by true love’s power i.e. Emma. Also does that mean that August was in Thailand for so long searching for the heart? (Maybe he went to Himmapan — http://www.himmapan.com/himmapan_creatures.html and wanted to forget what he encountered?)

[gypsy]

I did notice the white rabbit references (his name is attached to Jefferson Airplane who has the song about Alice as well as referencing the Mad Hatter).

Who’s name and what are the references? 🙂

Are you talking about Jefferson?

Or are you talking about Neal’s name because JA’s bassist’s name is Jack ‘Casady’?

[playarita]

@Gypsy wrote:

I did notice the white rabbit references (his name is attached to Jefferson Airplane who has the song about Alice as well as referencing the Mad Hatter).

Who’s name and what are the references? 🙂

Are you talking about Jefferson?

Or are you talking about Neal’s name because JA’s bassist’s name is Jack ‘Casady’?

Yes exactly. I thought it was a reference to Jefferson Airplane and their Alice in Wonderland song. Though I have thought it was either a reference to the White Rabbit or possibly March Hare or a means of throwing off people to his real FTL counterpart.

[gypsy]

Oh, ok, because I think Jefferson Airplane has more to do with Jefferson than Neal (Neal has way more to do with the Grateful Dead, which, in turn, connects him to Peter Pan), as far as the White Rabbit goes.

Jefferson= ‘Jefferson’ Airplane
Sang White Rabbit
Jefferson’s daughter is Grace = Grace Slick – lead singer of JA
Regina used a White Rabbit Tarot Card (on Grace/Page’s bike at school) to communicate with Jefferson.
Regina (Lana Parilla) played Greta on LOST.
She worked at the Looking Glass Station.
The Looking Glass Station’s logo was a white rabbit.
It was a communication station…..she used a white rabbit Tarot Card as a means of ‘communication’ with Jefferson.
Guess I just don’t see the significant use of the WR between Regina and Jefferson if Jefferson doesn’t represent the White Rabbit

[playarita]

@Gypsy wrote:

Oh, ok, because I think Jefferson Airplane has more to do with Jefferson than Neal (Neal has way more to do with the Grateful Dead, which, in turn, connects him to Peter Pan), as far as the White Rabbit goes.

Jefferson= ‘Jefferson’ Airplane
Sang White Rabbit
Jefferson’s daughter is Grace = Grace Slick – lead singer of JA
Regina used a White Rabbit Tarot Card (on Grace/Page’s bike at school) to communicate with Jefferson.
Regina (Lana Parilla) played Greta on LOST.
She worked at the Looking Glass Station.
The Looking Glass Station’s logo was a white rabbit.
It was a communication station…..she used a white rabbit Tarot Card as a means of ‘communication’ with Jefferson.
Guess I just don’t see the significant use of the WR between Regina and Jefferson if Jefferson doesn’t represent the White Rabbit

Sorry to be a bother but Once Upon a Time confirmed that Jefferson was the Mad Hatter. He became the mad hatter after being trapped in Wonderland. So then he was the white rabbit prior to this and thus is both characters? If I remember correctly, was the white rabbit featured in the show? I thought I read that. Jefferson was seen as a human from the beginning. Unless the other possibility is the ability to shift (maybe as a means of fitting the land traveled to?)

[PriceofMagic]

@playarita wrote:

If I remember correctly, was the white rabbit featured in the show? I thought I read that.

In the episode Dreamy, when Mary-Margaret and Leroy were going door to door trying to sell candles, an old white haired bloke answered the door whilst munching on a carrot. I always took that as a nod to the white rabbit.

All magic comes with a price!

Keeper of Felix

[gypsy]

Playarita –

You’re not being a bother at all 🙂
Yes, I know Jefferson is the Mad Hatter, but, I do think he also represents the White Rabbit.
He’s the realm jumper…he takes ppl down the rabbit hole to other worlds, which is what the WR did.
Whether he can shapeshift or not, idk…I never thought about that.
However, if he can, he kept his memory in SB, maybe he remembered how to shapeshift, maybe that’s how he survived the fall out the window in Hat Trick…..idk, though, SB didn’t have magic.

PriceofMagic –

I thought of Jack Sprat when I saw that guy and his wife at the door in Dreamy, lol.

[Phee]

@Gypsy wrote:

PriceofMagic –

I thought of Jack Sprat when I saw that guy and his wife at the door in Dreamy, lol.

Same here. Skinny guy eating a carrot + overweight wife = “Jack Sprat could eat no fat, his wife could eat no lean.” If he was meant to be the White Rabbit, he’d have had something obvious like a pocket watch instead of an overweight wife, (or any wife for that matter).

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