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Yes, as of episode 3×01, despite what we’ve been led to believe, that’s what I think.
Pan tells Henry he is the owner of the HoTTB, and yes, that’s true, but IT’S EMMA’S HEART that he’s referring to IMO. Why else would he not just cut out Henry’s heart and be done with it? It’s clear from the sneak peek of 3×02 that he wants something from her. And he very specifically said to her that it isn’t about finding Henry it’s about HOW she finds him: belief. This is why Pan wants her to stop denying who she is.
The whole episode was structured around what Emma believes. Everything Rumple said was huge neon sign of foreshadowing – she doesn’t believe in herself, her magic or her parents. By the mid-season finale or the end of the season, Emma WILL believe in all of it. And THAT’S what will make her the HoTTB.
And then Pan is going to try to take her heart. But as we know, HE CAN’T. And why else would we have learned that last season if it wasn’t going to come into play at some stage???
Thoughts anyone? 🙂
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So I think the title is serving a dual purpose.
1) It’s an actual physical plot object, a real heart
2) It’s a theme that will reoccur over the season
As far as the first point goes, I think tHotTB belong to Henry. I think they’ve set it up that for whatever reason, PP needs Henry’s heart. Maybe it’s to break a curse, maybe it’s to save NL, maybe it’s for himself. I’m not sure and there are ton of theories out there.
As to the second, I do think Emma has tHotTB but she didn’t know it until this episode. It’s not the one PP wants but the episode showed that Emma is also a believer, but she had to discover that for herself. Her episode arc was beginning to believe in herself. Now what does PP want from Emma? I’m not sure. Maybe he needs her magic for something or maybe he needs both their hearts. But I don’t think the Henry plot is a ploy. I think he for sure needs Henry’s heart but it’s possible that he needs something from Emma as well.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"We must be thinking similar thoughts. I posted my own theory in the 3×1 section called “Why Does Peter Pan Want Henry’s Heart?” thread.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
I agree Eala. Why not just cut out Henry’s heart then and there? I think PP and the Lost boys are going to try and break Henry, make him lose hope. Henry’s always been the one who believed and Emma had to be convinced, in Neverland, there roles are going to be reversed. If Henry believes he’s going to die, it’ll be up to Emma to convince him that she will save him.
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Keeper of FelixYes, as of episode 3×01, despite what we’ve been led to believe, that’s what I think.
Pan tells Henry he is the owner of the HoTTB, and yes, that’s true, but IT’S EMMA’S HEART that he’s referring to IMO. Why else would he not just cut out Henry’s heart and be done with it? It’s clear from the sneak peek of 3×02 that he wants something from her. And he very specifically said to her that it isn’t about finding Henry it’s about HOW she finds him: belief. This is why Pan wants her to stop denying who she is.+
The whole episode was structured around what Emma believes. Everything Rumple said was huge neon sign of foreshadowing – she doesn’t believe in herself, her magic or her parents. By the mid-season finale or the end of the season, Emma WILL believe in all of it. And THAT’S what will make her the HoTTB.
And then Pan is going to try to take her heart. But as we know, HE CAN’T. And why else would we have learned that last season if it wasn’t going to come into play at some stage???
Thoughts anyone?
I THINK PP is trying to get Henry’s heart. I also think like Cora could not take EMMA’S HEART … PP will be unable to take HENRY’S HEART. Henry’s heart is protected by the love of his family… EMMA, REGINA, NEAL, SNOW AND CHARMING and even Rumple… not to forget everyone in Storybrooke.What PP fails to understand it is his heart that needs to be purified of evil … Henry might lead the way to redemption but PP has to do his own cleansing and work.
Interesting–will have to look at Slupreez post in the other thread but right now both would make sense to me. I think there will be something PP did not expect either way that will knock his sneaky grin clean off his face.
“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass
I have a theory that his heart has to be at its highest belief state. For Henry it would be when he is about to die and waiting for his family to save him or seeing them trying to save him. His belief that good will triumph over evil would finally give PP all the power for whatever reason he needs.
I think that ultimately it’s Henry’s heart that PP is after, and he’s testing its strength by putting Henry in a situation where he’s in danger, and has to keep the faith against mounting odds that his family will save him.
But I also think he’s testing Emma for some particular purpose as well. This is PP we’re talking about, so mummy issues and testing the familial bond to see if it truly exists is something that would totally fit. And along those same lines, I suspect we might see him testing Regina as well, (her promo poster did focus on a mother’s love being able to overcome). Perhaps him testing Emma is intended to have a flow on effect of testing Regina at the same time, seeing if the two mothers who are typically very antagonistic, can actually come together and play nice for the sake of saving their son.
I really don’t think it’s Henry’s heart, or maybe Pan thinks it is, I don’t know. All I know is that PP wasn’t actually sure Henry had it himself, because he tested him. Henry passed the test that’s true, but it’s easy for Henry to believe in magic, there’s no struggle at all for him there. It doesn’t make a good story.
Whereas for Emma, belief is hugely difficult in nearly every way for her. Believing would make her the Truest Believer in every sense.
@Rumplesgirl – I don’t think that both she AND Henry could have the HoTTB because it says “believer” not “believers” indicating that there is only one.I’m sure i’ll be amending this theory in the weeks to come but as it stands right now I think it’s Emma’s heart that Pan wants/needs, and who knows Pan himself may not know it yet.
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I said the same thing in one thread that wouldn’t it be neat if the heart pan wants is from the only person whose heart cant b taken… I also think pan is unsure who it is and is going to test them both… I think emma has a great advantage being of our land an it will help her in this upcoming battle to get henry 🙂
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