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April 1, 2013 at 9:02 pm #183738gypsyParticipant
Jbwood5 wrote
I think Neal came straight to our worldBut, Neal said to Emma that ‘our world wasn’t the first place he went when he left home, otherwise he’d be hundreds of years old’.
[adrotate group="5"]April 1, 2013 at 9:50 pm #183753timespacerParticipant@Phee wrote:
This doesn’t confirm to me that the time runs parallel. It just says that a chunk of time that lasted the same amount of time was frozen in both worlds. I put that down to the two lands being tied together because they’re on opposite ends of the curse, but don’t think it indicates that FTL and SB exist side by side on the timeline. I still think they all jumped forward a couple 100 years or so when they came here.
Good point. The two realms might be connected in such a way that there is always a constant offset between them. In that case, Henry couldn’t be Peter Pan so it might be Bae after all. Which would mean Daniel wouldn’t get any cream in his coffee!
@obisgirl wrote:
You’re probably right about that because didn’t Neal say something to that effect in “The Queen is Dead” to Emma when Hook showed up in Manhattan to kill Gold? If he hadn’t made a pit stop or something in Neverland before coming to our world, he would have been decades older.
“A couple of hundred years older”, actually. But that could fit either interpretation since Bae left Rumple and went through the portal hundreds of years before the time of Snow, Charming, et al. Hopefully, we won’t have to wait too much longer to find out!
April 1, 2013 at 11:16 pm #183785MatthewPaulModeratorYeah, I doubt Henry will become Peter Pan. He was born in our world at a time way after Peter Pan was introduced to our world as a story. Plus Adam and Eddy have constantly reminded fans that Henry is just Henry, nobody else.
April 12, 2013 at 12:55 am #185731charmingParticipantI doubt Henry is Peter Pan otherwise he would know Hook and hook would know him. just like Emma is no one else but Emma. I’m more inclined to believe Neal is Peter Pan just by what he said to Emma about knowing how to sail hook’s ship and this not being the first world he’s been to.
April 12, 2013 at 1:24 am #185739DemiletoParticipant@MatthewPaul wrote:
Yeah, I doubt Henry will become Peter Pan. He was born in our world at a time way after Peter Pan was introduced to our world as a story. Plus Adam and Eddy have constantly reminded fans that Henry is just Henry, nobody else.
I don’t believe it either, but not because of the time thing. Pretty much every story we’ve seen adapted on the show is more than a hundred years old, many of them centuries old, yet for all intents and purposes they only happened 28 or so years ago (and yes, the show has already shown us that time runs concurrently between realms, including the Land Without Magic). In the end, I think the authors of these stories will end up being revealed as something akin to prophets, since a mechanic like the glimpses of the future Rumple has would be a neat way to explain why the stories we’ve come to know and love differ so much from what we see on the show and are not interconnected with each other.
April 12, 2013 at 4:21 am #185769timespacerParticipant@charming wrote:
I doubt Henry is Peter Pan otherwise he would know Hook and hook would know him. just like Emma is no one else but Emma. I’m more inclined to believe Neal is Peter Pan just by what he said to Emma about knowing how to sail hook’s ship and this not being the first world he’s been to.
But that argument would only apply if Henry is Peter Pan (present tense.) The assumption is that he is not yet Peter Pan but he might become Peter Pan in the future. It would be as big a surprise to him as to us, since none of the characters (except possibly Rumple) seem to know exactly how time works between the worlds.
There’s a second time complication at work here also. While Snow and the characters from her world were born hundreds of years after their stories were written, we saw in “The Crocodile” that Hook sailed to Never Land right after Milah died. We’ve been told that event occurred at least “a couple of hundred years ago” or more, but J.M. Barrie wrote Peter Pan in 1904, just over a hundred years ago. So Never Land existed at least a hundred years before the story was written in our world. But Hook and Smee are the only characters we know for sure were there at that time. We know the Lost Boys were there at some time because Hook referred to them in the present day. And of course, since we don’t know who Peter Pan is, we don’t know if he has been to Never Land yet or not.
April 12, 2013 at 7:48 am #185790jbwood5ParticipantI can’t imagine him being Peter Pan for the simple fact that I believe Pan will play a major role in Hook flashbacks to his first trip to neverland.
April 12, 2013 at 7:17 pm #185875wewerecursedParticipantMy theory (and sorry if this has been said before, and careful with spoilers because I know that mega spoiler pics of the finale have been leaked but I haven’t seen them!) is that Nealfire was the ORIGINAL Peter Pan. He’s certainly been around long enough. I think Tinker Bell probably helped him get out of NL before the curse hit. The lost boys, like everyone else, were cursed and sent to Storybrooke. Now that they’re awake, they want their Pan back, but get angry when they find out he grew up. But learning that he has a son, they decide to kidnap Henry to NL to make him the new Pan. I don’t think Henry would ever run away to NL alone, he loves his family too much and wants to fix it. But I do think that once he gets to NL he’s going to begin to like it (in a Simba kind of way) and by the time Emma and Co. finally find him, he’ll be a full-on Pan. (Henry Pan? Has a ring to it. Lol)
April 12, 2013 at 7:59 pm #185879kfchimeraParticipant@TimeSpacer wrote:
But that argument would only apply if Henry is Peter Pan (present tense.) The assumption is that he is not yet Peter Pan but he might become Peter Pan in the future. It would be as big a surprise to him as to us, since none of the characters (except possibly Rumple) seem to know exactly how time works between the worlds.
The only problem I have there is the circularity thing, that Henry already knows who Peter Pan is as a classic tale. At least, I presume he does, since they must have talked about Hook, and where the pirate ship came from. I guess I’ve handled circular time before in Sci-Fi stories but it does always make me a little 😕 .
“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass
April 14, 2013 at 8:29 pm #186137MatthewPaulModerator@KFChimera wrote:
@TimeSpacer wrote:
But that argument would only apply if Henry is Peter Pan (present tense.) The assumption is that he is not yet Peter Pan but he might become Peter Pan in the future. It would be as big a surprise to him as to us, since none of the characters (except possibly Rumple) seem to know exactly how time works between the worlds.
The only problem I have there is the circularity thing, that Henry already knows who Peter Pan is as a classic tale. At least, I presume he does, since they must have talked about Hook, and where the pirate ship came from. I guess I’ve handled circular time before in Sci-Fi stories but it does always make me a little 😕 .
Well, Emma already knew who Captain Hook was when she met him, so I assume Henry would too.
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