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Ah yes, they also wrote into the show that nothing is innocent, so good is likely a very subjective term. I think good is temporary. Anything can be good, until it’s not. Rumpel was good – and then he became the Dark One. Regina was good – and then Daniel died. Snow was good, and then she drank the potion and forgot Charming. Goodness in this show is a very delicate beast, and I think many of the characters, under the right circumstances, would lose their goodness if the situation was just right.
[adrotate group="5"]This is why Fairies can be compared to exploding stars:
Reul Ghorm=Blue Star=White Dwarf=Old Star
Nova=Stella Nova=Super Nova/New StarEpisode. 14_Dreamy:
Blue Fairy is sitting in the sky. Nova brings her some fairydust. Blue says two important things “dust is what powers the world” and “Nova, you really are a dreamer. Your journey is just beginning”
If as Stars:
Old star is sitting in the sky. It is running out of fuel and power, it’s dying. That’s why it shines with a bluish white light. A new star has power. It shines with joy and energy, its life is just beginning.Later ep. 14:
Mary and Emma talk about the annual holiday, minersday. They need volunteers to help the nuns sell candles. Mary explains that the nuns used to trade candles for coal.
If as Stars:
Stars need fuel in order to shine their light on the world. They need coal.Later ep. 14:
Scene at the school where the nuns are signing up people to help sell candles. There are star symbols everywhere on the walls. Cut out stars, astronomic pictures, star constellations and so on.
Grumpy/Leroy walks in and wants to sign up with Mary, she doesn’t believe him. He says “Maybe I saw the light. Maybe someone showed me”
Nova/Astrid walks in and tells Blue Fairy/ that she is sorry she accidentally ordered to much helium.
If as Stars:
Again with the candle light symbolism. A star showed Leroy the light…
A star is fueled by or produces helium. When a star produces too much helium it explodes as a Super Nova this is the clumsy kind. It can also explode into a White Dwarf that’s the little old blue dying kind…. ….Come on people !!! Tell me if I’m wrong.………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………
Something else on Grumpy and Nova’s love wich I find very sad:
Grumpy was Dreamy when he had hope and love. He was told he could never be with Nova. Because he is dwarf she is fairy and that’s a no go. Dreamy looses his hope and becomes Grumpy.Belle ones said to Dreamy “ Love is hope, it fuels our dreams”
Dwarfs live in the underworld and never sees the light. The underworld can never be in the heavens. The shadow flis the light.
Astrid said to Leroy “ Someone ones told me. You can do anything as long as you can dream it” I wonder WHO told her that, and if we will ever know who.
Is there any hope for them ??……………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………
This is the plot- DESTINY is the biggest baddest wolf.
Destiny is the law of everything, can they escape it ? Do they have free will ?Scene between Grumpy and Nova, when Grumpy comes to tell her they can’t be together:
*Grump “Im a dwarf you are a fairy. I belong in the mines. That is never going to change”
(He believes it is his destiny and that there is nothing he can do about it)
*Nova “Dreamy. You control what changes in your life. Don’t forget. You are speciel”
(She believes in free will)
*Grump “Why ? What makes us different from any other dwarf and fairy ?”
*Nova “Our love !”But then he denies it and says it is all just dreams that they need to forget. 😥
Last thing I’m wondering about. Will the Blue Star, Reul Ghorm explode in the end ?
One more thing i just thought about
Blue Fairy is the old star, she is dying. But is that because she has given in to ‘Destiny’ she no longer believes or have any hope left that she herself can change things or escape her destiny of being a lonely star just hanging in the sky.
Remember Belles words to Grumpy ” Love is hope it FUELS our dreams”That is actually the same story as with Snow White and Evil Queen. Snow White has love therebye hope. Her dreams are still intact. Evil Queen has lost all that. Has given in to her destiny.
The hole that can never be filled in Regina. Is like a black hole in the universe sucking all the matter around it in. And if it was big enough, it would suck in the whole universe and still not be filled.
That’s an interesting comparison medchen. I think I read in an interview a while ago that Blue Fairy was supposedly training Nova to take over from her which would play into your Star comparison theory. Unfortunately, I can’t remember what interview it was but I think it was one with the actress who plays Blue Fairy.
All magic comes with a price!
Keeper of Felix@medchen wrote:
Astrid said to Leroy “ Someone ones told me. You can do anything as long as you can dream it” I wonder WHO told her that, and if we will ever know who.
Is there any hope for them ??Dreamy tells this to Nova in the fairytale world, and everyone in Storybrooke had some ounce of themselves in their new personalities – small memories that are disconnected from their current world. If someone were to ask Nova “Who told you that?” She would probably experience the same memory loss as everyone else did, she wouldn’t be able to remember, since it was connected to her old life.
I’m really really hoping that we will get to see a Grumpy/Nova reunion in Storybrooke!
One more thing to the ‘this is all about destiny vs freewill’ thing
In the first episode Snow white is in despair because the curse is going to be put on them. Charming want to gather the armies, so to speak, but snow says “There is no point.The future is written” Charming-“No I refuse to believe that”
The fate of fairytale characters is written black on white in the stories, they are allways the same. It is their destiny. Will they (the “evil”) be able to escape. (I say the “evil” because the good offcouse allready get there happy ending by the will of destiny.)
Yes! The “evil” characters have always been written to lose, to be evil, to never get a happy ending. The curse spits in the face of destiny and takes matters into it’s own hands, allowing for these characters to have a chance to find redemption.
Regina touched on that subject in S1eps 2. When enacting the curse and she asked everyone gathered around, for a lock of hair ‘from the darkest souls’….she said to them aren’t you all tired of losing?
Yep, exactly. And in Apple as Red As Blood she has a nightmare where all the people remember and tie her to that tree, and she says “I just wanted to win.”
The Eddie and Adam also talked about it in the special features on the season 1 set, about how the villains are made to always be the losers in fairytales and “what would happen” if they weren’t content with that.
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