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Thoughts on the implication of Lancelot in fairy tale land

Home › Forums › Once Upon a Time › Season Two › 2×03 "Lady of the Lake" › Thoughts on the implication of Lancelot in fairy tale land

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  • October 15, 2012 at 5:02 am #135065
    quazijoe
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    Something that struck me as … Interesting.

    If Lancelot exists, meaning the other knights, the round table, King Arthur, that means he exists in a universe of England.

    Which means our reality, if not slightly parallel.

    I’m willing to acknowledge that this may not show up in the story, but there has always been a distinct separation from fairy tale land and our reality.

    King Arthur was meant to be a story based in our universe.

    What this means to me is either the enchanted Forrest exists as a forest on earth in its medieval past, along side all of our cultures, or lancelets reality somehow crosses over with this reality allowing him to separate and become king George’s hired general.

    Or there exists two earths one with magic and one without, and we are seeing the two timelines that are crossing over with the curse and the events that lead up to it.

    This ties in with the idea of Peter Pan, and wonderland, which are realities intermixed with ours.

    Which demonstrates stable magic between realities, ours and theres.

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    October 15, 2012 at 5:52 am #156724
    Killian Jones
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    Well I think they’re incorporating Lancelot and Kind Arthur as a folk tale like Mulan not as part of actual realty. Yes a lot of these stories are set in a medieval time period but here they’re an alternate universe. With Kink Arthur, Lancelot and Mulan that whole thing is really being pushed since those characters may have actually been real people in history not purely fantastical like Snow White or Prince Charming.

    October 15, 2012 at 2:21 pm #156775
    faux pax
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    I think the realms lie on a spectrum and the ones that seem based on history (like Arthur and Mulan) are the realms that lie closest to the “real world.” The more magic that is in the world, the farther it would be to the real world. I think the closer two worlds are, the easier ti would be to cross over. Since the ones based on history are pressed up against ours, it would explain how it was possible for legends to cross over into our.

    a rough example:

    Real world –Arthur– OZ (?) — Enchanted forest — Neverland (?) — Wonderland

    October 16, 2012 at 4:23 am #156858
    Phee
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    @steliokontos1 wrote:

    Well I think they’re incorporating Lancelot and Kind Arthur as a folk tale like Mulan not as part of actual realty.

    That’s what I think too. There are many legends about Arthur, Guinevere, Lancelot, The Round Table, Merlin, etc, but they’re largely just folklore. From Arthur’s wikipedia page: “The details of Arthur’s story are mainly composed of folklore and literary invention, and his historical existence is debated and disputed by modern historians.”

    Our world has been described, for the sake of this show, as a world without magic. So how can stories that involved a wizard named Merlin have actually happened in our world’s history? Therefore, they qualify as stories and folktales that happened in another world, even though they’re known in ours, the same way all the fairytales came to be known in our world.

    It’s similar to how they used King Midas. Again, a character who is said to have existed in our world, but his story is the thing of mythology, so they can pass him off as having existed in a different world, not really ours after all.

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