Three things that have been bugging me.

[playarita]

@charming wrote:

2) George needed Rumple’s help because his minions could not legally get George’s wife pregnant and an heir to the throne. She was cursed to being barren. If an heir was not found or produced the kingdom will go to another royal family. His minions can’t be trusted to doing that word would go out that there was no heir. If you remember whenever he spoke to Rumple in detail in was just between the two of them and no one else; meaning no one “really knows” what the deal is but yet they do.

That means that he was not his wife’s true love. It makes me wonder who was. That said it would be interesting to see their dynamic in their relationship. If there was underlying animosity I wonder if George’s wife purposefully made herself barren as a way of keeping true to her one true love (not having another man’s child) or ensuring that George not have his ancestry passed on as he would have to adopt a child into the royal family. If there are brothers and sisters it would interesting to meet them or learn about their existence and life (if he had any… if he was an only child he would be in quite the predicament).

[frumpybutsupersmart]

@playarita wrote:

@charming wrote:

2) George needed Rumple’s help because his minions could not legally get George’s wife pregnant and an heir to the throne. She was cursed to being barren. If an heir was not found or produced the kingdom will go to another royal family. His minions can’t be trusted to doing that word would go out that there was no heir. If you remember whenever he spoke to Rumple in detail in was just between the two of them and no one else; meaning no one “really knows” what the deal is but yet they do.

That means that he was not his wife’s true love. It makes me wonder who was. That said it would be interesting to see their dynamic in their relationship. If there was underlying animosity I wonder if George’s wife purposefully made herself barren as a way of keeping true to her one true love (not having another man’s child) or ensuring that George not have his ancestry passed on as he would have to adopt a child into the royal family. If there are brothers and sisters it would interesting to meet them or learn about their existence and life (if he had any… if he was an only child he would be in quite the predicament).

I think George’s wife probably was his true love – Snow and Charming’s true love kissing didn’t cure Snow, it was the water from Lake Nostos. I don’t think the curse George used on Snow is an actual curse; I think it was probably more like a poison, or maybe a magical poison.

[playarita]

@frumpybutsupersmart wrote:

@playarita wrote:

@charming wrote:

2) George needed Rumple’s help because his minions could not legally get George’s wife pregnant and an heir to the throne. She was cursed to being barren. If an heir was not found or produced the kingdom will go to another royal family. His minions can’t be trusted to doing that word would go out that there was no heir. If you remember whenever he spoke to Rumple in detail in was just between the two of them and no one else; meaning no one “really knows” what the deal is but yet they do.

That means that he was not his wife’s true love. It makes me wonder who was. That said it would be interesting to see their dynamic in their relationship. If there was underlying animosity I wonder if George’s wife purposefully made herself barren as a way of keeping true to her one true love (not having another man’s child) or ensuring that George not have his ancestry passed on as he would have to adopt a child into the royal family. If there are brothers and sisters it would interesting to meet them or learn about their existence and life (if he had any… if he was an only child he would be in quite the predicament).

I think George’s wife probably was his true love – Snow and Charming’s true love kissing didn’t cure Snow, it was the water from Lake Nostos. I don’t think the curse George used on Snow is an actual curse; I think it was probably more like a poison, or maybe a magical poison.

That makes sense. I thought it was a curse because he mentions a curse (http://onceuponatime.wikia.com/wiki/King_George) but it seems to have been a potion rather a curse (chant and potion). That explains why the lake water allowed Snow to become fertile again.

If the queen was King George’s true love then her death along with the inability to produce an heir might have been what made him cross over to the character he is today. I know curses can be broken by true love’s kiss but some potions example being the potion Snow took to forget Charming can also be released by a kiss well his sentiment of his rather dying then seeing Snow becoming evil (http://onceuponatime.wikia.com/wiki/Snow_White)

I mostly thought it odd that if the Queen was King George’s love then shouldn’t that have broken through the potion (if not a kiss alone then the sentiment as well)? Unless it is only some potions with others only being broken with an antidote. It would be interesting to see the dynamics of his marriage if we ever see it.

[frumpybutsupersmart]

With Charming curing Snow’s forgetfulness potion, I always thought that happened because the second time he kissed her, she kissed him back. The first time, Charming basically assaulted her and she freaked out, but after he almost died to keep her from murder, she actually wanted to kiss him, so the True Love’s Kiss worked.

You’re right though, it would be interesting to see George’s relationship with his wife 🙂

[eireland]

@frumpybutsupersmart wrote:

With Charming curing Snow’s forgetfulness potion, I always thought that happened because the second time he kissed her, she kissed him back. The first time, Charming basically assaulted her and she freaked out, but after he almost died to keep her from murder, she actually wanted to kiss him, so the True Love’s Kiss worked.

You’re right though, it would be interesting to see George’s relationship with his wife 🙂

I thought it had something to do with him taking the arrow that was intended for Regina as well?

[Phee]

@frumpybutsupersmart wrote:

With Charming curing Snow’s forgetfulness potion, I always thought that happened because the second time he kissed her, she kissed him back. The first time, Charming basically assaulted her and she freaked out, but after he almost died to keep her from murder, she actually wanted to kiss him, so the True Love’s Kiss worked.

Yep, it had to be a two way thing with both of them being into it for the kiss to work.

You’re right though, it would be interesting to see George’s relationship with his wife 🙂

I can’t help but wonder if the theory about Cora having been George’s wife is correct, and if the potion to make her barren was some part of her plan to weasel out of the baby deal with Rumple, which is how she ended up being able to keep Regina. Haven’t thought about it enough to come up with a full theory on the logistics of it all, but I like the potential for a storyline like that.

[Gaultheria]

@EvilQueen wrote:

1) King George not only needed A son but he needed someone mentally fit to be a king. Also, he probably would’ve wanted a boy that would resemble him (physically) at least a bit. All this definitely limited the possibilities – after all, how a king can expect any peasant kid to grow strong and intelligent? Then, if he really wanted to go into this, he would’ve had to do a “research” among the ‘potential parents’ and, however discrete that can be, people surely would notice if strangers started asking weird questions and then a child disappeared while the king miraculously conceived a heir? It would be every king’s worry that something, some time, would be discovered (whether it’s a deal or a kidnap) and a gossip would start, then his kingdom would fall apart or start an internal war. With Rumple’s deal, he avoided all that – his ‘son’ not only turned out to be a handsome, strong, smart and charming but also his real parents were bound by magic to never speak about it. Convenient!

Maybe there was no deception on George’s part. Rather than locating a passable fake heir, he might’ve needed Rumpel’s help to find the mistress who fled (fearing a lethal coverup) when she realized she was pregnant.

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