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September 29, 2014 at 12:07 am #283622darkones1fanParticipant
Come on Chernabog lets get a appearance! Also why shouldn;t the Villains get happy endings time for the forces of darkness to win 😛
[adrotate group="5"]September 29, 2014 at 12:34 am #283631AmdillaeParticipantIsn’t it possible that the book has no real author to be convinced to grant the happy endings. I am thinking that the book could have been created as a semi sentient object that is is now outside of the original creator’s control. Finding this out could be a catalyst for Regina (and possibly Elsa) to write their own happy endings.
“The truth isn't easily pinned to a page. In the bathtub of history the truth is harder to hold than the soap and much more difficult to find.” - Terry Pratchett
September 29, 2014 at 2:23 pm #283721PriceofMagicParticipantEveryone having happy endings is impossible. Emma made Regina an impossible promise because one person’s happy ending can easily contradict with another person’s happy ending.
For example, Regina’s happy ending is with Robin but so is Marian’s.
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Keeper of FelixSeptember 29, 2014 at 5:13 pm #283752MyrilParticipantWhat is a happy ending? For the rest of life, for the moment, regarding a certain situation or regarding all wishes a person has for their lives? What makes a happy ending? And as @PriceofMagic brings up, can everyone have a happy ending?
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September 29, 2014 at 5:30 pm #283754JosephineParticipantWhat Emma meant was the happy endings of everyone but the peasants. WHY DOES NOBODY THINK OF THE PEASANTS!
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September 29, 2014 at 5:48 pm #283756RumplesGirlKeymasterWhat is a happy ending? For the rest of life, for the moment, regarding a certain situation or regarding all wishes a person has for their lives? What makes a happy ending? And as @PriceofMagic brings up, can everyone have a happy ending?
Given how A and E write their show, their happy ending will focus on some sort of romantic true love. But I agree with POM
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"September 29, 2014 at 10:53 pm #283792SlurpeezParticipantI really have to question the moral message being presented now on OUAT. Do villains really deserve a happy ending?
Take a real-life scenario. Would anyone, other than extremists, argue Hitler deserved a happy ending? What about Stalin? What about Pol Pot?
No.
What if these people had done even one good thing amongst a lifetime of harmful decisions? After all, presumably these people who did horrible things like kill people could still love their children. Yet, was that one redeeming thing enough to counteract the terrorizing, unspeakable acts of evil? I’d argue, still no.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
September 29, 2014 at 11:23 pm #283799Epona_610ParticipantEveryone having happy endings is impossible. Emma made Regina an impossible promise because one person’s happy ending can easily contradict with another person’s happy ending.
For example, Regina’s happy ending is with Robin but so is Marian’s.
What Emma meant was the happy endings of everyone but the peasants. WHY DOES NOBODY THINK OF THE PEASANTS!
Those were pretty much my immediate thoughts during that scene as well…I had more to say, but for the sake of avoiding an argument I’ll just leave it at that. 😉
September 30, 2014 at 12:39 am #283810PheeParticipantI think this whole arc is gonna come back to the question of “what is fate?” Regina said she wants to change her fate, Sidney said that was impossible, Regina insists it can be done if they can find the person who wrote the original fate of everyone in the book and make them change it. But in the end that will prove futile because you make your own “fate” by way of your actions, it’s not a thing that the Book’s author decides or controls. At the end of the day it comes down to the individual deciding to do the right or wrong things and where that inevitably leads them, so if Regina wants to change her fate, she’ll have to do it herself, and S4 will be her discovering that.
September 30, 2014 at 4:07 am #283811swanning-offParticipantAt the end of the day it comes down to the individual deciding to do the right or wrong things and where that inevitably leads them, so if Regina wants to change her fate, she’ll have to do it herself, and S4 will be her discovering that.
As a season arc for Regina, I think this is good – she has confronted that she was defined as the Evil Queen due to her actions, not because people just randomly hated her. Now she has to realise that a) she has to fight and strive for her “happy ending” rather than expect it to be handed to her on a platter and b) you make your own fate. It’s too easy to blame an omniscient author – so easy that it made me face palm so hard when Regina came out with it.
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