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October 1, 2014 at 6:42 am #283898
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ParticipantHad Emma not saved Marian….everybody, by Core Cast means, would be happy! There would be no worries!
Except that Robin would be ignorantly engaging in a relationship with the person who killed his wife, and that’s definitely not “no worries” IMO. If they want me to be OK with OQ, Robin and Marian need to have an amicable split, and she needs to live, and Regina has to regret what she did in the original timeline and realise that she can’t just demand a work around or do even more nefarious stuff in order to get her what she wants, (like trying to rewrite the book to fix her life). Even then it’ll still feel wrong to me because Regina did originally kill Robin’s wife and the mother of his child, so I can’t see how he could be with her, but if they’re gonna insist on having pixie dust predictions being infallible, at least circumstances are such now that the full truth of the past can be known and dealt with, instead of Robin being blinded to the past actions of the woman he’s gonna be with.
[adrotate group="5"]October 1, 2014 at 3:11 pm #283913WickedRegal
ParticipantWickedRegal* Am I understanding you right that you are saying it would be fine for Regina to “kill” Marion or more inadvertently just stand by and let her die knowing she could help- like in the snowmonster case. And that that would be okay for her to do ? then she would be “Good Regina” no longer a villain, and well on her way to redemption and finding her happy ending ?? How would that not put her right back in the Evil Queen role that she is trying to cast of herself? As you say, the situation is what it is. Marion is there now, whether she was ment to or not. Its not up to Regina to deside on “Fate’s” behalf what is supposed to be or not…
No….I’m saying Regina intervened with what Fate was going to fix for her….Regina was in the wrong place at wrong time…had she not been there, Fate would have fixed itself. But the “Good” Regina spared Marian’s life by saving her….I think that makes up for her killing her originally.
But Beware Marian, because Fate is gonna be “Final Destination” for you.
"If you go as far as you can see...you will then see enough to go even further." - Finn Balor
October 1, 2014 at 5:46 pm #283926PriceofMagic
ParticipantRegina needs to stop planning about getting rid of Marian. It was awfully convenient that everyone but Marian were knocked out and then everyone came round just in time to see Regina save Marian.
I’d like to see Regina actually walk away from the OQ relationship then Robin has to work if he wants her back. Regina really needs to back off and not try and kill Marian.
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Keeper of FelixOctober 1, 2014 at 6:31 pm #283931ash-the-narnian
ParticipantHere,here Pom. I couldn’t agree more.
and hmm I hope we get some more Fantasia/ Yen Sid and Merlin references and cameos *crosses fingers*
But why do I get the feeling regina’s search might make a whooper whale mess of things..
Oh yeah cause that’s what happens to mickey when he plays around with things he shouldn’t. Just sayin…
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October 1, 2014 at 6:42 pm #283932WickedRegal
ParticipantRegina needs to stop planning about getting rid of Marian. It was awfully convenient that everyone but Marian were knocked out and then everyone came round just in time to see Regina save Marian. I’d like to see Regina actually walk away from the OQ relationship then Robin has to work if he wants her back. Regina really needs to back off and not try and kill Marian.
This I agree….my headcannon is that Regina will only fight for Robin in 4A, but round the winter finale, she just completely gives up and leaves him alone which in 4B we will see her at her lowest point. And I vaguely see a sleeping curse happening since Maleficent is reappearing….
"If you go as far as you can see...you will then see enough to go even further." - Finn Balor
October 1, 2014 at 8:34 pm #283940Amy41
ParticipantI think the book was written by Blue Fairy or Black Fairy or even Blue is actually Black Fairy. I’m wondering if this is our final season or maybe we are only getting 5 seasons because finding the author of the book seems like a finale.
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October 1, 2014 at 10:35 pm #283973timespacer
ParticipantNo….I’m saying Regina intervened with what Fate was going to fix for her….Regina was in the wrong place at wrong time…had she not been there, Fate would have fixed itself. But the “Good” Regina spared Marian’s life by saving her….I think that makes up for her killing her originally.
But Beware Marian, because Fate is gonna be “Final Destination” for you.
Why should we assume this hypothetical “Fate” exists or that it somehow implies that some events in one timeline have to be present in another timeline? I do recall that when we first met the spinsters who raised Rumple in “Think Lovely Thoughts” they were in some ways reminiscent of two of the three Fates from Greek mythology but that was never definitely established. “Fate” is an excuse invoked by those who who choose to do the easy or the selfish thing instead of the hard work of changing things. Emma would be a very poor heroine indeed if she had followed that prescription.
October 2, 2014 at 1:39 am #283999WickedRegal
ParticipantNo….I’m saying Regina intervened with what Fate was going to fix for her….Regina was in the wrong place at wrong time…had she not been there, Fate would have fixed itself. But the “Good” Regina spared Marian’s life by saving her….I think that makes up for her killing her originally. But Beware Marian, because Fate is gonna be “Final Destination” for you.
“Fate” is an excuse invoked by those who who choose to do the easy or the selfish thing instead of the hard work of changing things. Emma would be a very poor heroine indeed if she had followed that prescription.
It was prophesied….even Tinkerbelle declared it as being Destiny! So it is Fate! And screwing with Fate comes with dire consequences…consequences that Emma Swan did not care to think about before jumping to play superwoman! Consequences that Regina is going to have to yet again pay for because of Emma’s careless mistake!
"If you go as far as you can see...you will then see enough to go even further." - Finn Balor
October 2, 2014 at 7:22 am #284002TheWatcher
ParticipantSo here’s a thought. What if Regina’s happy ending isn’t to do with RH….but with her father? *hears the forum groaning over resurrection* Yeah, yeah, I know…. But I was rewatching 1×02 and I’ve always liked the little exchange they had where he tells her she can find happiness without casting the curse and that they together can move on to happiness…. So, MAYBE, regina is going to try to bring him back?
I think the book was written by Blue Fairy or Black Fairy or even Blue is actually Black Fairy. I’m wondering if this is our final season or maybe we are only getting 5 seasons because finding the author of the book seems like a finale.
Finding the book author always felt more like a final season thing to me too.
. And I vaguely see a sleeping curse happening….
This is going to complicate things if they don’t have Henry be the one to wake her. Or better yet, if both Marian and Regina fall into sleeping curses and RH has to kiss both of them…. an then they leave it as a cliffhanger for the whole year
“Fate” is an excuse invoked by those who who choose to do the easy or the selfish thing instead of the hard work of changing things. Emma would be a very poor heroine indeed if she had followed that prescription.
A bit off-topic but in the show, hasn’t fate prevailed every time? When it comes down to Rump losing his son, becoming the dark one, emma breaking the curse, Rump dying, etc. All those things were foreseen ahead of time and they came true… So is it safe to say that Fate and Destiny are indeed at play in the Once universe?
And screwing with Fate comes with dire consequences…
Agreed. I believe August said as much. I don’t think the Powers That Be in the universe of OUAT are just sitting by, letting people hop around time, resurrecting people, saving people who should have died, screwing with things that have been foreseen, all without there being some major repercussions. My best bet is that Marian is living on borrowed time. She’ll be around for awhile, but Im pretty sure if she did die in the past, she’s going to bite the dust before the season is over. Honestly, you’d think Emma was smart enough to not do what she did T_T
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ParticipantNo….I’m saying Regina intervened with what Fate was going to fix for her….Regina was in the wrong place at wrong time…had she not been there, Fate would have fixed itself. But the “Good” Regina spared Marian’s life by saving her….I think that makes up for her killing her originally. But Beware Marian, because Fate is gonna be “Final Destination” for you.
“Fate” is an excuse invoked by those who who choose to do the easy or the selfish thing instead of the hard work of changing things. Emma would be a very poor heroine indeed if she had followed that prescription.
It was prophesied….even Tinkerbelle declared it as being Destiny! So it is Fate! And screwing with Fate comes with dire consequences…consequences that Emma Swan did not care to think about before jumping to play superwoman! Consequences that Regina is going to have to yet again pay for because of Emma’s careless mistake!
That makes no sense…how is Regina saving Marian from Marshmallow not “cheating fate” if Emma saving Marian from Regina is? Why would Regina just have been “in the wrong place at the wrong time” when Emma made a “careless mistake”? And how can anyone say for sure that it wasn’t fate that Marian be reunited with her family?
Also, perhaps Regina kinda destroyed that “destiny” (OQ) when she chickened out and didn’t go into the tavern to meet Robin the first time. Maybe if she’d gone in, they were supposed to be together but she didn’t, and now she has to live with the consequences. Are they still destined to be together after Regina chose not to go in? (I think they will be just because that seems to be how the show works, but theoretically…) And Tinker Bell said he was her happy ending…I don’t remember her saying anything about their being destined to be together, no matter what. Just that he would’ve made Regina happy. In Neverland, she told Regina that by not going inside, she ruined not only her life, but Robin’s too. She didn’t say “Well you’ll just have to meet up later, now that you’ve had his wife murdered.”
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