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October 3, 2014 at 8:22 pm #284173PriceofMagicParticipant
And if Regina and Henry succeeds, God I hope they do, Regina can write herself a new story with a much happier ending. And not just her…she can give the villains their own happy ending….all Rumple was his son and love, all Cora used to want is money, but before she died she realized love is more important. And I think deep down…all Zelena wanted was Cora’s love. Chances of this happening is zero to none, but the point is….if Regina rewrites history and gives every villain what they wanted….everyone ends up happening. Because so many lives could have been spared had Bae not encountered the Blue Fairy, Johnathan not lied to Cora, and Snow not telling Regina’s secret.
It’s impossible to give everyone a happy ending because those happy endings will contradict. And giving villains their happy ending will only cause trouble. For example, Pan’s happy ending was to live forever. For that, he needed the heart of the truest believer so Henry’s heart. Regina’s happy ending is going to involve Henry. Pan’s happy ending and Regina’s happy ending contradict. It’s arguable that the heroes would’ve even got involved with Pan if it hadn’t been Henry’s heart he was after.
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Keeper of FelixOctober 3, 2014 at 8:23 pm #284175GaultheriaParticipant13. No matter how anyone wants to say it…Snow White is the cause of Daniel’s death.
Nuh-uhhhh! I saw Cora do it!
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October 3, 2014 at 8:26 pm #284177Sage of EarthParticipant13. No matter how anyone wants to say it…Snow White is the cause of Daniel’s death. Do I think Daniel’s death was inevitable, yes it was whether Snow told or not, because Cora would have eventually found Regina unless Regina and Daniel went to another realm. But Snow White sure did speed up the inevitable by snitching on Regina. Cora was manipulative, but a secret is a secret, and Snow White knew what a secret was! I’ve got friends whose secrets I’m still keeping from their parents till this day….Snow White was just too gullible and naïve. So Daniel’s death is Snow White’s fault, and Cora’s death is definitely Snow’s fault…both of which I’m glad she acknowledged. Snow White never thinks of consequences, and the apple didn’t fall too far from the tree with Emma…but Emma is at least a lot brighter than her parents thank god.
She was also still a kid, in fact the way they wrote that part for her actually had me identify with her since I was the same way. It took me a while to keep a secrete. I am not saying that telling the secrete was wrong, but blaming her for causing someone death when someone else did the deed is also wrong. I am sorry if I offend you, and you have a right to an opinion, but Snow didn’t want Daniel to die, Cora wanted him to die in order to have Regina marry the king. Cora is the one cause his death.
October 3, 2014 at 8:27 pm #284178RumplesGirlKeymasterI agree with almost everything you said, the only thing is….I guess I can understand Regina’s frustration in wanting to change her history. She’s tired…she’s exhausted….personally I think a long break out of Storybrooke would do her a lot of good, something I predict happening in the winter finale. Regina just leaving Storybrooke all together, and it’s actually gonna be Henry to rewrite History.
i know how much you understand Regina and I’m totally okay with it. It’s natural…we all have our favorites. It’s when our favoritism clouds what the characters have done.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"October 3, 2014 at 8:32 pm #284180Sage of EarthParticipantI agree with almost everything you said, the only thing is….I guess I can understand Regina’s frustration in wanting to change her history. She’s tired…she’s exhausted….personally I think a long break out of Storybrooke would do her a lot of good, something I predict happening in the winter finale. Regina just leaving Storybrooke all together, and it’s actually gonna be Henry to rewrite History.
i know how much you understand Regina and I’m totally okay with it. It’s natural…we all have our favorites. It’s when our favoritism clouds what the characters have done.
Agreed I’ll admit I would be the same ways with Rumple and Belle. Since Belle is my favorite Disney Princess, and Rumple reminds of my dad who passed away. Personally with his lieing thing, I just think it has to do with a bit self confidence, trust and a bit of psychological damage caused by the being Zelena slave, dieing and seeing your kid die. Which is all big life changing stuff to deal with such a short period of time. See I guess I do it to, sometimes.
October 3, 2014 at 8:39 pm #284182PriceofMagicParticipantI agree with almost everything you said, the only thing is….I guess I can understand Regina’s frustration in wanting to change her history. She’s tired…she’s exhausted….personally I think a long break out of Storybrooke would do her a lot of good, something I predict happening in the winter finale. Regina just leaving Storybrooke all together, and it’s actually gonna be Henry to rewrite History.
i know how much you understand Regina and I’m totally okay with it. It’s natural…we all have our favorites. It’s when our favoritism clouds what the characters have done.
Agreed I’ll admit I would be the same ways with Rumple and Belle. Since Belle is my favorite Disney Princess, and Rumple reminds of my dad who passed away. Personally with his lieing thing, I just think it has to do with a bit self confidence, trust and a bit of psychological damage caused by the being Zelena slave, dieing and seeing your kid die. Which is all big life changing stuff to deal with such a short period of time. See I guess I do it to, sometimes.
I wonder how much the coming back from death has actually affected Rumple and how many of his current misdemeanours are actually a result of that?
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Keeper of FelixOctober 3, 2014 at 8:54 pm #284183RumplesGirlKeymasterwonder how much the coming back from death has actually affected Rumple and how many of his current misdemeanours are actually a result of that?
As far as I’m concerned, none. As soon as Bae left his head, he was perfectly sane and fine. He was coherent, just being controlled. Then he was no longer being controlled. He did what he did fully cognizant as evidenced by his speech at Neal’s grave. He didn’t do it because he was affected mentally or emotionally from coming back from the dead, but because he felt he had to avenge his son. Which is the last thing Neal would ever want, and somewhere inside, Rumple knows that. It was a selfish, “I’m addicted to magic” move.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"October 3, 2014 at 8:55 pm #284184Epona_610ParticipantHelping her mother murder Johanna?
Actually she didn’t help her mother murder Johanna, Cora did that on her own. On the other hand she did help Cora kidnapped and threatened Johanna life. Regina has done alot of terrible things, but let us accuse of her of the crime she did commit.
Fair point, but that’s why I said “help”…if Cora hadn’t kidnapped and threatened Johanna, she wouldn’t have killed her–Regina helped to get to that situation. Regardless though, the point still stands even without that charge!
October 3, 2014 at 8:56 pm #284185TheWatcherParticipantThe villagers helped a fugitive
*poofs in* …..but Snow wasn’t a fugitive. REGINA was responsible for the death of the king. Not Snow. Regina’s claim that Snow was a fugitive is a lie. REGINA is the fugitive. *poofs away*
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But you think Regina DOES think of consequences?! She’s always pitying herself for having to deal with consequences of the terrible things she’s done. The first example that comes to mind is having Henry choose to stay with David at the beginning of season two…that’s a consequence of Regina’s having cast the curse in the first place, using Henry to fill the hole in her heart with no regard for his feelings or mental well-being, nearly strangling David after Emma and Snow went through Jefferson’s hat by mistake. And there are many more examples I’ve already mentioned…such as, I don’t know, having Marian murdered in the original timeline.
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