Time Stopped in FTL

[hannah97]

@Asta wrote:

@Hannah97 wrote:

Yeah, my guess is that Phillip and Mulan were living in a similar state to those in Storybrook, trapped in time and in a haze until Emma caused time to move again. Then they realized what happened and began aging again and Phillip and Mulan could begin searching for Aurora.

That would explain Mulan’s love for Phillip. Perhaps they were a couple in their cursed and “frozen” state. I’m looking forward to seeing their safe haven. Maybe we’ll see Captain Hook there.

I still wonder how they knew how much time has passed. Someone must have been aware, like Regina/Gold/Jefferson. Did Jefferson find his way back? There are plenty of other magical characters that perhaps could have remembered and felt the passing of time. Tinkerbell perhaps?

Either that or they bonded while they were searching for Aurora. It was 28 years after all, and it doesn’t seem like he’d be a hard guy to fall for.

[rcaret7z]

This kind of makes me wonder did Regina actually know that time was frozen back in FTL and to sort of “kill two birds with one stone” she would send the wraith back to FTL to rid the land of her foes? Still, I think time in FTL is probably ahead somehow (kinda like DST – daylight savings time or the International Date Line – IDL 😀 )? Emma and Snow arrived after the wraith burst through the ground, right? I suppose my theory is still kind of sketchy and I’m not exactly sure I explained it well enough.
Also, is it only me or did Regina gain her powers after Emma touched her? 😕
😎

[hannah97]

@Rcaret7z wrote:

This kind of makes me wonder did Regina actually know that time was frozen back in FTL and to sort of “kill two birds with one stone” she would send the wraith back to FTL to rid the land of her foes? Still, I think time in FTL is probably ahead somehow (kinda like DST – daylight savings time or the International Date Line – IDL 😀 )? Emma and Snow arrived after the wraith burst through the ground, right? I suppose my theory is still kind of sketchy and I’m not exactly sure I explained it well enough.
Also, is it only me or did Regina gain her powers after Emma touched her? 😕
😎

Yes. Yes, she did. 🙂 I think Emma has more magic than anyone realizes, being the product of true love which is the most powerful magic of all.

[surayya]

I think the word they used was frozen in time ….. I’m not 100% sure what that means exactly, but when I 1st heard it I took it to mean stasis like state- aware of the passing of time & the state/condition of things around them, but not able to do anything about it, however its far more likely they were the same as SB & trapped where ever they stood when the curse hit for 28yrs.

My take on FTL was the curse ripped all the ‘Happiness’ from their world/lands & left everything else … that way some parts are there, places of great sadness for example (like the palace containing ones true love who has been taken from them).

[rcaret7z]

This might be slightly off topic but now I’m wondering if “time” was literally frozen in SB but the “characters” were frozen in FTL, does that mean there is some correlation going on (with time and characters)? The way I am taking it is that the characters in SB only became aware of each other after the curse was broken which would coincidentally unfreeze time in FTL. I recall some talk of the curse weakening in FTL (I’m not 100% on this); could this also correspond to when Emma entered SB?
Sometimes I get done with an episode and have nothing more than more questions!!! 😯

[Killian Jones]

@Rcaret7z wrote:

This kind of makes me wonder did Regina actually know that time was frozen back in FTL and to sort of “kill two birds with one stone” she would send the wraith back to FTL to rid the land of her foes? Still, I think time in FTL is probably ahead somehow (kinda like DST – daylight savings time or the International Date Line – IDL 😀 )? Emma and Snow arrived after the wraith burst through the ground, right? I suppose my theory is still kind of sketchy and I’m not exactly sure I explained it well enough.
Also, is it only me or did Regina gain her powers after Emma touched her? 😕
😎

Actually I don’t think Regina knew that anything was left of the enchanted forest, and yeah Emma did return Regina’s powers she may be able to do that for all of them. Who knows if she’ll retain actual magic abilities of her own we’ll have to see about that.

[surayya]

@Dorothy wrote:

I’m more interested in finding out why a piece of FTL was left untouched. Was it because the curse only affected specifically the people Regina held a grudge against, or was it a screw up on Rumple’s part?

My theory is the curse ripped all the happiness out of FTL but left everything else there- so realms/lands/parts that had great sadness (for instance) attached to them/going on at that time were left untouched.
I’m hoping/thinking that when Snow & Emma return they tell everyone FTL is still there but it’s dying or falling apart kind of thing as so much of it was ripped away & that they all need to return to stop it from happening- then we’d get them all trying to find out how to get back & then those who don’t actually want to go back, with the bonus of a few seasons or more of them actually in FTL trying to keep their world/land from falling apart/dying …. wait does that sound a little like Never Ending Story to anyone else lol 😉 – Oh I’d love to see that play out.

[surayya]

Actually I don’t think Regina knew that anything was left of the enchanted forest, and yeah Emma did return Regina’s powers she may be able to do that for all of them. Who knows if she’ll retain actual magic abilities of her own we’ll have to see about that.

I actually disagree on that point- she wanted to return to FTL to get the Apple After she had enacted the curse, to put Emma to sleep, she knew she had some place to go back to or why waste the last of her magic aka Daniel’s ring to get the Apple in the 1st place, if she had truly thought nothing was left, she wouldnt have wasted her one keep sake of Daniel’s.

She knows otherwise she would have come right out & broken down (slightly) in front of Henry, with I cant bring them back, they are dead, FTL is gone, as she would have known Henry wouldnt see her again at all & she loves him & only him- she knows she has a hope of getting them back & redeeming herself to get Henry back & that’s why she didn’t say I cant (I think she’s finally learnt the art of semantics from Gold 😆 ) 😉

[Killian Jones]

@Surayya wrote:

Actually I don’t think Regina knew that anything was left of the enchanted forest, and yeah Emma did return Regina’s powers she may be able to do that for all of them. Who knows if she’ll retain actual magic abilities of her own we’ll have to see about that.

I actually disagree on that point- she wanted to return to FTL to get the Apple After she had enacted the curse, to put Emma to sleep, she knew she had some place to go back to or why waste the last of her magic aka Daniel’s ring to get the Apple in the 1st place, if she had truly thought nothing was left, she wouldnt have wasted her one keep sake of Daniel’s.

She knows otherwise she would have come right out & broken down (slightly) in front of Henry, with I cant bring them back, they are dead, FTL is gone, as she would have known Henry wouldnt see her again at all & she loves him & only him- she knows she has a hope of getting them back & redeeming herself to get Henry back & that’s why she didn’t say I cant (I think she’s finally learnt the art of semantics from Gold 😆 ) 😉

Let me clarify she didn’t think there was anything left of The Enchanted Forest after the curse was enacted. As the Hat can take you to any time and place she knew she could go back to a place in time where TEF still existed prior to the curse where the apple and TEF still existed. She said she didn’t know because she doesn’t know what remains of TEF post curse she couldn’t confirm one way or the other apparently it’s changed a lot according to Mulan even they don’t know why that corner of their world was relatively saved.

[rcaret7z]

@steliokontos1 wrote:

@Rcaret7z wrote:

This kind of makes me wonder did Regina actually know that time was frozen back in FTL and to sort of “kill two birds with one stone” she would send the wraith back to FTL to rid the land of her foes? Still, I think time in FTL is probably ahead somehow (kinda like DST – daylight savings time or the International Date Line – IDL 😀 )? Emma and Snow arrived after the wraith burst through the ground, right? I suppose my theory is still kind of sketchy and I’m not exactly sure I explained it well enough.
Also, is it only me or did Regina gain her powers after Emma touched her? 😕
😎

Actually I don’t think Regina knew that anything was left of the enchanted forest, and yeah Emma did return Regina’s powers she may be able to do that for all of them. Who knows if she’ll retain actual magic abilities of her own we’ll have to see about that.

@steliokontos1 wrote:

Let me clarify she didn’t think there was anything left of The Enchanted Forest after the curse was enacted. As the Hat can take you to any time and place she knew she could go back to a place in time where TEF still existed prior to the curse where the apple and TEF still existed. She said she didn’t know because she doesn’t know what remains of TEF post curse she couldn’t confirm one way or the other apparently it’s changed a lot according to Mulan even they don’t know why that corner of their world was relatively saved.

After re-watching Broken, it still seems to me that Regina DOES in fact know something (about either current day TEF or FTL). She may say that she doesn’t know, just like she did to Emma about Jefferson but I honestly think she has a clue. To think that “banishing the wraith to oblivion” is what she actually hopes for is kind of far fetched (on the brighter side of things) even for the evil queen but not impossible since they do/did live in a land of enchantments & magic. They just haven’t convinced me that Regina is capable of doing better, I suppose?

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