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Working on the timeline again today. I’ve got all of S4 documented, so it’s just a matter of condensing my spreadsheet into the site timeline.
Flashbacks are already completed for 418-422. Just a matter of getting the present events recorded now, though work will probably steal me away before I can finish with that this afternoon. (421-422 are almost all in present/alternate reality, so…)
[adrotate group="5"]Keeper of Belle's Gold magic, sand dollar, cloaks, purple FTL outfit, spell scroll, library key, copy of Romeo and Juliet, and cry-muffling pillow, Rumple's doll, overcoat, and strength, and The Timeline. My spreadsheet: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6r8CySCCWd9R0RUNm4xR3RhMEU/view?usp=sharing
The timeline is now updated through Season 4.
Now to begin S5.
Keeper of Belle's Gold magic, sand dollar, cloaks, purple FTL outfit, spell scroll, library key, copy of Romeo and Juliet, and cry-muffling pillow, Rumple's doll, overcoat, and strength, and The Timeline. My spreadsheet: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6r8CySCCWd9R0RUNm4xR3RhMEU/view?usp=sharing
Updated the timeline with info from 501 (and a few notes from 507).
So, what have I worked out?
–“Present” time is now in August 2013 by my calculations. I suspect it’s more toward Autumn in A&E’s minds.
–Merlin found the grail in approximately 976 AD. The era of Arthur starts in 1976, a decade plus 28 years before Emma and the gang arrive in Camelot, when Arthur draws the sword from the stone.
–I am more confident than ever, thanks to Adam’s tweets, about Rumplestiltskin’s early timeline–he became the Dark One in about 1860, and would have been around 200 when Emma came to Storybrooke.
Questions I hope will be answered tonight (or in the near future, or ever):
–does anyone CARE about Belle (they all LIKE her, sure) besides Rumple? (Oh, wait, that’s nothing to do with the timeline, sorry.)
–When and how did Nimue cease being the Dark One?
–Where does Gorgon fit into the DO timeline?
–Thanks to the book, does Henry know his father went through the same thing at the same age? Will he ask Rumple about how Baelfire dealt with having a DO parent?
–When IS Henry’s birthday? (I have it set to Emma’s birthday, which means he can’t be 13 yet, on the logic that she insisted he was born when she was 18 BUT he was ten when he found her on her 28th birthday. I strongly suspect that A&E did not mean for them to have the same birthday, however.)
Keeper of Belle's Gold magic, sand dollar, cloaks, purple FTL outfit, spell scroll, library key, copy of Romeo and Juliet, and cry-muffling pillow, Rumple's doll, overcoat, and strength, and The Timeline. My spreadsheet: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6r8CySCCWd9R0RUNm4xR3RhMEU/view?usp=sharing
So Emma should be approaching 30 soon?
Keb, your dedication to timelining is admirable.
All magic comes with a price!
Keeper of FelixThank you.
And yes, she is having quite the midlife crisis for it, too.
Since they’ve got Henry saying he’s 13 already, and their timeline has two years since time started moving (I say it’s still not quite 3 months shy of that, though there is a tiny bit of wiggle room), then Emma probably already IS 30 in their minds. If not, she’s very close.
Keeper of Belle's Gold magic, sand dollar, cloaks, purple FTL outfit, spell scroll, library key, copy of Romeo and Juliet, and cry-muffling pillow, Rumple's doll, overcoat, and strength, and The Timeline. My spreadsheet: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6r8CySCCWd9R0RUNm4xR3RhMEU/view?usp=sharing
Well, update on the timeline: As of tonight, I have recorded all the episodes from S5A on my spreadsheet. Over the next week or two I will be working on putting entries on the site timeline. If it breaks…well, it’s easy to do that and I’ll fix it asap.
As always, some decisions on the timeline are arbitrary, but if you have evidence that strongly counters something I’ve put on the timeline, please let me know. Also much thanks to everyone who shares theories, tweets, etc here–they help me a great deal.
And I still think the flashback in 511 is the most timeline-headache-inducing flashback yet. (I watched the flashbacks from 209 like a dozen times trying to make sense of it. It just doesn’t make sense. So I’ve decided that after Regina twirls the hat…then she tests Hook…THEN sends him to Wonderland over a day later. Logic being that the whole scene from the drink she offered after stopping him from killing Belle to twirling the hat was seamless, and he knew the information she’d given him during that interview when we open 511’s flashback. So perhaps she was just showing him the hat? The only other option is to put 511 in between where she stops his killing Belle and the interview later, but she’s in the same dress and still holding his hook for most of that sequence. Best I can do, folks.)
Keeper of Belle's Gold magic, sand dollar, cloaks, purple FTL outfit, spell scroll, library key, copy of Romeo and Juliet, and cry-muffling pillow, Rumple's doll, overcoat, and strength, and The Timeline. My spreadsheet: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6r8CySCCWd9R0RUNm4xR3RhMEU/view?usp=sharing
Flashbacks prior to Emma & Gang’s arrival in Camelot are now in place. Need sleep. Will start the Camelot flashbacks tomorrow.
Keeper of Belle's Gold magic, sand dollar, cloaks, purple FTL outfit, spell scroll, library key, copy of Romeo and Juliet, and cry-muffling pillow, Rumple's doll, overcoat, and strength, and The Timeline. My spreadsheet: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6r8CySCCWd9R0RUNm4xR3RhMEU/view?usp=sharing
New updates! Everything from Camelot and earlier flashbacks is up (through 511). Present timeline events are up through 503.
Check it out, offer constructive criticism, and with any luck I’ll have the rest up before S5B hits.
Keeper of Belle's Gold magic, sand dollar, cloaks, purple FTL outfit, spell scroll, library key, copy of Romeo and Juliet, and cry-muffling pillow, Rumple's doll, overcoat, and strength, and The Timeline. My spreadsheet: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6r8CySCCWd9R0RUNm4xR3RhMEU/view?usp=sharing
New link for my reference timeline, which is a big scary spreadsheet with over 6000 lines now. However, it’s a slightly better one if you’re trying to work out the exact order of the scenes (as I’ve interpreted it), since I try to combine storylines/scenes that are broken up but the same event on the site timeline.
The site timeline Once Upon a Timeline is now updated through 511 and therefore, until Sunday, completely up to date!
Please let me know if you discover glaring errors, typos, etc, so I can fix them.
Notes on New Material for S5A to help you find it:
–Merlin’s and Nimue’s stories (507, 505) are in the years 976-1576.
–Killian’s childhood story (511) is in 1836 and I’ve adjusted his and Liam’s birthdates to 1824 & 1826.
–I’ve set Arthur’s and Guinevere’s births in 1954.
–Arthur’s childhood story (504) is in Feb 1966.
–Arthur draws the sword from the stone (501, 504) in May 1976.
–Guinevere and Lancelot’s adventure (504) is in Feb/March 1981, adjacent to 411’s gauntlet story.
–Regina’s test of Hook (511) is in Sept 1983, intermixed with 209.
–Merlin’s warning to young Emma (501) is in Oct 1989.
–Merida’s & Fergus’s (and Mulan’s) story (509) is in March 2012, between 217 and 218’s present-day events, based in part off a writer’s tweet about that portion of Mulan’s timeline.
–Ruby’s flashback (509) is in April 2013, intermixed with 322.
–501’s present events take place starting 6/18/2013.
–Everything from 6/21/2013-7/31/2013 is presented as part of the 6-week flashbacks.
–Present day events continue from 8/1/2013 onward.
–S5B will have to start 8/20/2013 or 8/21/2013.Keeper of Belle's Gold magic, sand dollar, cloaks, purple FTL outfit, spell scroll, library key, copy of Romeo and Juliet, and cry-muffling pillow, Rumple's doll, overcoat, and strength, and The Timeline. My spreadsheet: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6r8CySCCWd9R0RUNm4xR3RhMEU/view?usp=sharing
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