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February 24, 2012 at 9:27 pm #133777miaParticipant
I’m just re-watching the pilot and in the second scene where Emma asks Henry where he lives and there’s tis white fence, there’s a Tinkerbell-figure in the shadows!!
[adrotate group="5"]February 24, 2012 at 11:37 pm #137648Daniel J. LewisKeymasterNice catch! I wonder when we’ll see Peter Pan.
February 25, 2012 at 12:07 am #137652cruel_fortunaParticipantI thought ‘Peter Pan’ wasn’t in the public domain – & ABC/Disney would have to pay the copyright fees to be able to use any likeness of the character – & so they haven’t bothered with using any of the characters from the novel. I’m not saying they won’t use Peter Pan – but at this point in time, I don’t see Disney shelling out the big bucks to be able to use the character’s likeness. They used to own the rights – back when they produced the animated movie but I’m pretty sure they let the rights go & they returned to the estate / holders of J. M. Barrie’s copyrights.
( Long story short – I don’t think we’ll be seeing Peter Pan until season 2 and rather late in the season at that. ) / Just my two cents.
February 25, 2012 at 2:35 pm #137664obisgirlParticipant@cruel_fortuna wrote:
I thought ‘Peter Pan’ wasn’t in the public domain – & ABC/Disney would have to pay the copyright fees to be able to use any likeness of the character – & so they haven’t bothered with using any of the characters from the novel. I’m not saying they won’t use Peter Pan – but at this point in time, I don’t see Disney shelling out the big bucks to be able to use the character’s likeness. They used to own the rights – back when they produced the animated movie but I’m pretty sure they let the rights go & they returned to the estate / holders of J. M. Barrie’s copyrights.
( Long story short – I don’t think we’ll be seeing Peter Pan until season 2 and rather late in the season at that. ) / Just my two cents.
I do remember seeing this.
Yeah, I read that too. 🙁
In the story though, none of the characters are from FT land. they're all from the real world. so I don't know if it would work to make them from FT world. that's how it was portrayed in the syfy movie. like I saw the syf mini-movie which is a prequel to the Peter Pan story, and it is very well-done if you haven’t seen it.
February 25, 2012 at 2:57 pm #137670hjbauParticipantThe problem with Peter Pan is that the rights belong to a hospital in perpetuity and legally so in England. The rights never belonged to disney. They just had an option for a movie. Then then still own the rights to their images and their movie, but they are not allowed to make a second movie or use the material for something else. And they can’t then make another movie and say it is based on their movie unless they make another deal with the hospital that owns the rights. That isn’t how it works. And disney has done more then one Peter Pan movie. They did the cartoon and they also did Hook and i think there was another.
I think things just become complicated with Peter Pan because of the rights being given to the hospital by the author in perpetuity and the courts in England legally allowed for the hospital to have the rights forever and not allow them to go into public domain. Otherwise Peter Pan would be in public domain because i think it has been long enough. I think it has been a hundred years since the book was written. Usually it is the life of the author plus 70 years until something goes into public domain, but Peter Pan is a special case.
The thing with ABC and disney being the same is that ONCE can use the disney material that is owned by disney like the look of the characters or the dwarfs names and so on. There are a lot of things that Disney made up for their versions that have nothing to do with the copyright of the original version. Probably mostly the names though and that is nice because it reminds us of the versions we saw as children.
February 27, 2012 at 12:38 am #137734SnickerdoodleParticipantI just watched this the other day as well, and stopped my replay to get a better look. Nice catch:)
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