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I understand that critique. My only reply is that possibly Tink became a bit nasty after the BF banished her to NL (assuming that is how it happened). Before he was called Grumpy, he was called Dreamy. It could be that the loss of true love and her daughter provoked Tink to be the way she is (kind of how Regina turned on Snow).
I’m good with this explanation. Does that mean Blue is more powerful than Tink now? Doesn’t that kill the theory going round that Blue is working for PP and Tink?
Not trying to throw MamaTink theory under the bus, but it is possible that Tink just used dark magic to have a one night stand or something. Gave birth to Belle and left her with Moe.
[adrotate group="5"]"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"Plus, those side-by-side photos of Rose and Emilie show a striking resemblance. They certainly look related in my opinion.
That’s one thing that keeps me from completely committing to the theory, because I don’t really see a resemblance. 😆 But then again, if they needed someone who could do a convincing Aussie accent, that might have narrowed the list of candidates, so they didn’t worry so much about getting a perfect physical match because at the end of the day they need the person who will play the role best.
Does that mean Blue is more powerful than Tink now? Doesn’t that kill the theory going round that Blue is working for PP and Tink?
I think Blue ranks above Tink, yeah. Maybe all fairies originate in NL, and Blue is the big boss fairy in FTL, and when she banished Tink to NL she sent her home, so to speak.
Not trying to throw MamaTink theory under the bus, but it is possible that Tink just used dark magic to have a one night stand or something. Gave birth to Belle and left her with Moe.
True, though there’s already controversy around how Regina used dark magic to bed Graham, so I dunno that they’d go there again. Also, if Moe didn’t care about MamaTink, then how does Belle end up essentially named after Tinker Bell?
My only problem with the MamaTink theory Phee is suggesting is that it makes her too nice. The casting call made it seem like A and E are sticking fairy close to Barrie on this one.
I was re-reading some snippets from J.M. Barrie’s Peter Pan, when I came across a description of Tinkerbell which might help shed some light on understanding her. For example, Barrie writes that:
“Fairies have to be one thing or the other, because being so small they unfortunately have room for one feeling only at a time.” J.M. Barrie, Peter Pan
“Tink was not all bad: or, rather, she was all bad just now, but, on the other hand, sometimes she was all good. Fairies have to be one thing or the other, because being so small they unfortunately have room for one feeling only at a time. They are, however, allowed to change, only it must be a complete change.” J.M. Barrie, Peter Pan
So, the reason Tinkerbell seems so capricious and even double-natured is that she can only take on one emotion at a time because she is so small. In one instant, she’ll be happy and even good, but in the next, she’ll turn completely jealous and act rashly. So, it’s possible that Tink could have been one way with Maurice and another way with Peter Pan. There are endless possibilities when you have a fairy as fickle as Tink.
slurpeez108 wrote:I understand that critique. My only reply is that possibly Tink became a bit nasty after the BF banished her to NL (assuming that is how it happened). Before he was called Grumpy, he was called Dreamy. It could be that the loss of true love and her daughter provoked Tink to be the way she is (kind of how Regina turned on Snow).
I’m good with this explanation. Does that mean Blue is more powerful than Tink now? Doesn’t that kill the theory going round that Blue is working for PP and Tink?
As the “original power”, I think the BF is at the top of the hierarchal chain of command of fairies in the EF. We don’t yet know whether Tinkerbell is originally from the EF or from NL. If Tink is originally from NL, then she might be just as powerful (if not more so) than the BF is within her own domain (like how each kingdom has its own ruler). Yet, if Tink is originally from the EF, then she probably is under the BF’s thumb and doing her bidding. However, that doesn’t preclude the possibility that Tink was recruited by PP to work for him, too, as a double agent. Another possibility is that Tink is playing both sides with her own agenda.
Not trying to throw MamaTink theory under the bus, but it is possible that Tink just used dark magic to have a one night stand or something. Gave birth to Belle and left her with Moe.
That is a real possibility, too. Perhaps Moe was just a one-night stand for Tink, rather than her true love. As her baby’s daddy, perhaps Tink just left Bell on the doorstep of his castle and then fled back to NL. However, Moe might really have fallen for Tink’s charms, and so he named his daughter Belle, in memory of her mother.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
I like the idea of this connection. It would make sense if the BF banished Tink to NL due to her relationship with Belle’s father. Also, it would explain why the BF is so against fairies being in love. Their has to be a reason behind this and I believe the BF said it distracts them from their duty. So maybe Tink was to guide Maurice and fell in love with him instead, had Belle and something horrible happened as a result. His kingdom and people fell prey to disaster.
Remember all the dad’s look better when they were younger. Remember Regina’s father was quite the looker in FB’s.
It would also explain why Belle is able to do the spell to protect SB, she has magic within her.
Wow lots of thoughts!
Ok Re: Moe and Tink. It’s very possible that for Tink it was a fleeting affair but for Moe it was something much more and thus why he gave his daughter the name of Belle.
Re: Barrie’s description of Tink. Love that! And it works out really nicely that it means Tink can sometimes be bad and sometimes be good.
Re: Blue and Tink. One of them has to be the grand poohbah. My money would have been on Blue if season two hadn’t shown that she is often ineffectual, but I don’t know if it’s deliberate or bad writing. So I switched to Tink being the bigger of the two. I’ve been thinking that Blue was dispatched to FT L to ensure that things went according to Tink’s and PP’s plan.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"I like the idea of this connection. It would make since if the BF banished Tink to NL due to her relationship with Belle’s father. Also, it would explain why the BF is so against fairies being in love. Their has to be a reason behind this and I believe the BF said it distracts them from their duty. So maybe Tink was to guide Maurice and fell in love with him instead, had Belle and something horrible happened as a result. His kingdom and people fell prey to disaster.
Those are excellent thoughts which tie a lot of loose ends together about Belle’s hitherto untold family history. (Now, I’ll be disappointed if this theory turns out to be wrong). I think you’re right about Blue opposing romances for fairies (either from Blue’s own personal experience or from the disastrous love affair of another fairy such as Tink). I recall in “Dreamy” how the BF opposed Nova falling in love because it would thwart her becoming a fairy-godmother. Well, perhaps Tink was being groomed to be fairy god-mother to Sir Maurice’s family but instead they had a love affair. Perhaps whatever protective magic lay over his family was lifted when Blue banished Tink to NL and so his house fell into ruin and despair, leaving his kingdom open to attack by the ogres (which we all know led to Rumple taking Bell as his captive in Skin Deep).
It would also explain why Belle is able to do the spell to protect SB, she has magic within her.
It would make a lot of sense that Belle could cast a cloaking spell because she is half-fae! Also, it’d be quite ironic if the Dark One were in love with the daughter of a fairy.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
Re: Blue and Tink. One of them has to be the grand poohbah. My money would have been on Blue if season two hadn’t shown that she is often ineffectual, but I don’t know if it’s deliberate or bad writing. So I switched to Tink being the bigger of the two. I’ve been thinking that Blue was dispatched to FT L to ensure that things went according to Tink’s and PP’s plan.
That does make some sense since I see the BF has meddling in certain things. Everything happens for a reason and the BF made sure it was PP’s reasons. IDK I still like my Tink as Belle’s mommy. I wonder how she would feel about having the Dark One has her SIL.
I believe the BF said it distracts them from their duty.
That’s pretty much what she implied, yep…
Blue Fairy: I’m Nova’s teacher. And if the two of you run away together, it will not end well. Nova will lose her wings. But, if you return to the mines, and if you allow Nova to become the fairy that she was meant to be, the two of you will bring untold joy to the world. Nova can be a great fairy – if you let her. The choice is yours.
It would also explain why Belle is able to do the spell to protect SB, she has magic within her.
True! Have also seen it discussed elsewhere that maybe her ability to see through monsters to the good inside is due to having some magic in her.
Re: Blue and Tink. One of them has to be the grand poohbah. My money would have been on Blue if season two hadn’t shown that she is often ineffectual, but I don’t know if it’s deliberate or bad writing. So I switched to Tink being the bigger of the two. I’ve been thinking that Blue was dispatched to FT L to ensure that things went according to Tink’s and PP’s plan.
Despite having been continually unsatisfied with how they’ve used Blue, I just can’t give up all hope that one day they’re gonna drop a bombshell and make her super significant. Maybe it’s just wishful thinking. But like slurpeez said, Blue has been called the “original power”, so I’m inclined to think she’s the highest ranking fairy in the land.
Also, it’d be quite ironic if the Dark One were in love with the daughter of a fairy.
This is the main reason I’d like the crackpot theory to prove true. Wanna see the guy who despises fairies come to terms with having a half-fairy be the person he’s been looking to as his moral rock, his inspiration to be a better man.
Here are some more reasons the original theorist posted on her blog:
11. Violet (aka Tink) casting: She is in her 20’s, and is a head-strong party girl. Sounds like Lacey?
12. In Lacey belle tells rumple that she doesn’t know why but that she has a “sense about people” and can tell his feelings were “true” and how she can sense the good in people (rum and robin hood for example).
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
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