- This topic has 45 replies, 16 voices, and was last updated 8 years, 6 months ago by
.
-
Posts
-
I mean Pan’s entire body vanished but apparently you put a living heart into his soul/essence/thingy walking around the Underworld and we’re supposed to accept that it’ll allow him to go topside.
Well that was a whole heart! Logic!
Maybe it’s not that the half a heart wouldn’t have saved Hook, but it would have hurt Emma. (That’s what started to happen.)
So if Pan had been given Robin’s heart, it would have killed Robin. Which fits the whole “life for a life” thing.
SFG
[adrotate group="5"]Keeper of Anna’s Awkward Babbling and Kristoff’s Fur-trimmed Tunic!
Maybe it’s not that the half a heart wouldn’t have saved Hook, but it would have hurt Emma. (That’s what started to happen.)
So why is that Emma can’t live with a whole heart but Snow can? I mean the only conclusion I think I’d draw from that is that Hook and Emma aren’t as true love as Snow White (because apparently true love can be randomly quantified by some heretofore unexplained set of measurements???) If anyone could live with half a heart you’d think it’d be True Love Incarnate.
So if Pan had been given Robin’s heart, it would have killed Robin. Which fits the whole “life for a life” thing.
Maybe but it’s still a physical heart inside a nonphysical essence. I don’t know how that works at all let alone how Pan was going to be able to interact with the topside Real World.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"I wanted to touch on something Lily Sparks wrote over on TV.com:
Zelena came back inside to find Regina crouched over Robin Hood. Regina mustered herself up for a tearful speech about how Hades hadn’t changed at all, because he wanted everything for himself, but true love is sacrifice, and Robin had sacrificed himself for her. Which is sort of confusing because Zelena and Hades definitely had a kiss of true love, and Rumple can’t give Belle a TLK, so are these kisses indicators of a healthy relationship or what? As we all know, my questions are pointless.
I also find it really confusing just what the writers are trying to convey about love on this show. In 5×21, they repeated a line that love is sacrifice, as Mulan, David, Neal, Emma, Regina, Robin and even Hook have all demonstrated. It also seems like the writers have debunked the myth that a woman can change a man when he doesn’t really want to change. When Hades turned out not to have changed, it seemed clearly to parallel Rumple’s refusal to change for Belle. Yet, it’s really troubling that Zelena and Hades still shared TLK last episode. As Regina pointed out to her sister, sometimes love blinds us to the truth. But then begs the question of just how “true” the love of Zelena and Hades really is. It seems like the writers have no clear answer to this dilemma. On the one hand, Rumple and Belle didn’t share TLK (with the stated reason being Rumple’s ture love is his power). Rumple isn’t willing to give up his power, or even stop using dark magic, for Belle. Hence, no TLK. Yet, how then were Zelena and Hades able to share TLK if it turned out Hades was just playing her and wasn’t really willing to give up his pursuit of power? Zelena just wanted to share a quite life in SB with Hades and her daughter, when what he really wanted was to rule without any interference from the so-called heroes.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
Yet, how then were Zelena and Hades able to share TLK if it turned out Hades was just playing her and wasn’t really willing to give up his pursuit of power? Zelena just wanted to share a quite life in SB with Hades and her daughter, when what he really wanted was to rule without any interference from the so-called heroes.
I think it’s because Hades wasn’t really playing her in the sense that he didn’t love her; he just wanted it all–the girl and the power. When TLK was started to work in Skin Deep, Rumple still loved his dagger and his power; but there was enough under that (his love of Bae, for example) that overrode his desire to hold on to his power. At least that’s my guess. Until Hades got to SB, his love for Zelena and his desire to have a family was at the forefront. But once he got to SB and he realized that with a beating heart and the heroes left behind, he could once again take power, that’s what drove him.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"I think it’s because Hades wasn’t really playing her in the sense that he didn’t love her; he just wanted it all–the girl and the power. When TLK was started to work in Skin Deep, Rumple still loved his dagger and his power; but there was enough under that (his love of Bae, for example) that overrode his desire to hold on to his power. At least that’s my guess. Until Hades got to SB, his love for Zelena and his desire to have a family was at the forefront. But once he got to SB and he realized that with a beating heart and the heroes left behind, he could once again take power, that’s what drove him.
That isn’t how it appeared to me. Hades flat out told Zelena back in 5×19 that he wanted to trap the heroes in UW. He also brought along his “family heirloom” (aka the cheap, glowing toy thunder bolt) from the UW to SB. So, it seems clear to me that Hades didn’t *just* want to be a family with Zelena and baby Robin. It seems like he really wanted to rule SB all along.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
I think it’s because Hades wasn’t really playing her in the sense that he didn’t love her; he just wanted it all–the girl and the power. When TLK was started to work in Skin Deep, Rumple still loved his dagger and his power; but there was enough under that (his love of Bae, for example) that overrode his desire to hold on to his power. At least that’s my guess. Until Hades got to SB, his love for Zelena and his desire to have a family was at the forefront. But once he got to SB and he realized that with a beating heart and the heroes left behind, he could once again take power, that’s what drove him.
That isn’t how it appeared to me. Hades flat out told Zelena back in 5×19 that he wanted to trap the heroes in UW. He also brought along his “family heirloom” (aka the cheap, glowing toy thunder bolt) from the UW to SB. So, it seems clear to me that Hades didn’t *just* want to be a family with Zelena and baby Robin. It seems like he really wanted to rule SB all along.
Yeah those are good points. *sigh* I don’t know. Because PLOT, Slurpeez. Because PLOT.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
The topic ‘True Love's Kiss?’ is closed to new replies.