Tv Guide -Regina's love interest

[RumplesGirl]

Agreed. RH is too moral for Regina. Plus they’ve already got the one “evil” partner/one good partner going on with RumBelle.

Don’t see HookedQueen happening since Hook is tied up with the CaptainSwanFire triangle.

I agree. CSF negates HQ because that overly messy, especially if we add in Ariel.

RegalHood as a lot of issues, especially with Tamara.

I agree that we count out Triton as he will not be appearing until probably after episode 5. This leaves pirates and someone from the pas who is in SB.

[kfchimera]

I like the Triton idea….what about Smee? What too ugly? How superficial we are, but then I think Regina probably is too.
Other pirates–I’m still hoping they’d get Nestor Carbonell (Richard in Lost, among many other credits) to play a pirate connected to Hook’s backstory…he won’t even take up their makeup artists time with eyeliner. (Apparently, it is natural).

I also think if we get the Henry adoption story, is it possible that Regina may have left the state? I can’t remember if I wrote this cracktheory up or not.  What if she met a man in the real world  when getting Henry–we know Gold “arranged” the adoption, but he could not have left town to get the baby but Regina could. It could be an interesting story that she meets a guy who has no idea of her back story or magic, and she is tempted to leave it all behind, but in the end chooses to take baby Henry back with her to SB, rather than taking a chance with this real-world guy and giving up her revenge of seeing Snow suffer repeatedly.

I’m picturing a storyline of her trying to figure out what baby supplies she needs, and some guy helps her and they start talking about how she’s adopting and going to be a single-mother and all that.  That’s a daunting thing to take on really.  Plus Regina seems to form attachments to people who are kind to her (like Owen) because it is has been so long since people treated her not with fear and disgust, but actual kindness and warmth.

 

 

 

“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass

[Josephine]

Other pirates–I’m still hoping they’d get Nestor Carbonell (Richard in Lost, among many other credits) to play a pirate connected to Hook’s backstory…he won’t even take up their makeup artists time with eyeliner. (Apparently, it is natural).

I’ve heard that, too, and there is just no way that is natural.  It’s so dark and full.  At the very least it’s mascara.  I have very long lashes and dark mascara makes me look like I have eyeliner on when I don’t. 

Men just don’t look right with eyeliner…sorry pirate fans. *ducks and hides* You can even see it on Mr. Gold, who explains about it in the “Skin Deep” commentary sometimes.  I just don’t like it on men.

Keeper of Rumplestiltskin's and Neal's spears and war paint and crystal ball.

[Slurpeez]

Regina, I think when all is said and done, needs to be with someone who is just as morally off kilter as she is. She is not Regina from Stable Boy anymore. She may want to be but part of her will always be the Evil Queen. She needs someone who can temper that in her, but also enjoys it in her. Pirate seems to be the best bet. I was HookedQueen before I began thinking about Hookriel and then I was doomed for all of time.

I tend to agree with this line of thinking. It’s like you said all the thoughts I had jumbled up in my head. LOl! I’m still HookedQueen, and that ship seems doomed. (Maybe Killian has a twin brother, a la Prince James/David)? 🙂

 All interviews suggest that there will be a focus on the JR6 and how they do or don’t work together, and other random pirates drifting around in NL would just distract from that. 

Again, that’s one reason why I still pair Hook with Regina (even though it sounds less likely with each passing spoiler).

They can’t stick Regina with a no-name. She’s iconic, and her partner will need to be iconic in his own right if their relationship can be portrayed as being balanced. After the business with Graham, I doubt they’ll pair her up with someone she’d be superior to ever again.

Wasn’t the initial argument in favor of Robin Hood the fact that he is humble and reminded Regina of the stable boy? On the one hand, I could actually see Regina falling for a good man like Robin who reminded her of her lost love, Daniel. On the other, Robin Hood, however iconic his legend is, has rejected the life of a landed gentry for that of an honorable woodsman, so he’s rather like Graham in that respect. Regina might “overshadow” Robin with her grandeur and royal trappings, whereas he will continue to fight for the oppressed, because that is just the kind of man he is. I suspect Regina would have to give up her power, magic, and wealth for the sake of loving a bandit like RH. I fear Regina may have gotten too accustomed to power and wealth to go back to the Regina she was when Daniel asked her to marry him. We’ll see.

So, say that’s all that Robin has ever heard of Regina. That she changed Snow White, the kindest, fairest person out there, Regina changed her for the better. And he’s the only person alive who knows that story about Regina, apart from Snow (and Charming). We’ve seen how many chances Snow has given Regina, because she just couldn’t give up the hope that original-recipe-good-hearted-Regina is still buried in there somewhere. So why couldn’t Robin potentially be the one man who could give Regina a chance too, if that’s what his preconceived opinion is of her?

Okay, let’s say that Robin Hood only ever heard Snow White speak in glowing terms about the kind of selfless woman Regina used to be before she went all murderous. Don’t you think he’d eventually have found out the truth though? Robin Hood lives in SB now (according to that spoiler). Upon getting his true FTL identity back, Robin will have heard about how evil Regina became up to the point of casting the curse and how she cast it to punish Snow White for marrying her true love.  He’s still going to have to deal with any potential resentment there for Regina for ripping him from his homeland and the ones he loves.

slurpeez108 wrote: Yep, there’s a lot to overcome there.

Ah yes, but as a wise (though cursed) woman once said, “if true love was easy, we’d all have it.”  

Yes, “the course of true love never did run smooth.”

"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

[Phee]

Wasn’t the initial argument in favor of Robin Hood the fact that he is humble and reminded Regina of the stable boy? On the one hand, I could actually see Regina falling for a good man like Robin who reminded her of her lost love, Daniel. On the other, Robin Hood, however iconic his legend is, has rejected the life of a landed gentry for that of a woodsman and thief, so he’s rather like Graham in that respect.

When I say he’s gotta be iconic, I mean from the audience’s point of view, on a scale of how legendary a character is. Someone who is the major hero in their story that’s known by everyone the world over. Someone who, you say their name, and everyone instantly recognises them as one of the major stars of the story. You say “Evil Queen” and it instantly conjures up a larger than life mental image. She should be paired with someone who people think of like that. To put her with a lesser character, would give the pairing an unbalanced perception for the audience.

I suspect Regina would have to give up her power, magic, and wealth for the sake of loving a bandit like RH.

She may feel obliged to give up some of the wealth to needy peasants, but the power and magic, I don’t think so. We’ve seen Robin use magic, so we know he’s not adverse to it and I don’t believe he’d make her give it up. And he’s plenty powerful, he was the valiant and inspirational leader of the Merry Men. He could show Regina that it’s possible to be a leader, to have power, and to use it to inspire and help people, instead of oppress them. It’s been a recurring theme that she wields her power and is then baffled why people don’t love her. Hansel and Gretel wouldn’t stay with her. The people didn’t worship her. It would be nice for her to eventually get a clue and realise that power can be used for good.

I just re-watched We Are Both tonight…

Rumpelstiltskin: So… Kind. So… Gentle. So… Powerful. You could do so much, if you just let yourself.

Evil Queen: And I won’t become like her?

Rumpelstiltskin: That, dearie, is entirely up to you.

Now, granted, Rumple manipulated her masterfully, so really, it wasn’t up to her…but it could have been if Rumple hadn’t gone out of his way to break her, and if Cora hadn’t weakened her in the first place.

Okay, let’s say that Robin Hood only ever heard Snow White speak in glowing terms about the kind of selfless woman Regina used to be before she went all murderous. Don’t you think he’d eventually have found out the truth though? Robin Hood lives in SB now (according to that spoiler). Upon getting his true FTL identity back, Robin will have heard about how evil Regina became up to the point of casting the curse and how she cast it to punish Snow White for marrying her true love. He’s still going to have to deal with any potential resentment there for Regina for ripping him from his homeland and the ones he loves.

All true, I wouldn’t expect him to blindly accept her and fall in love at first sight. But then, we have Belle, who was able to see through to Rumple’s good heart and she certainly hadn’t heard any soft and fluffy stories about him beforehand. So if he’s got that insight that no one else does, it may be just enough that he doesn’t judge her in the same way everyone else does, and once she’s given what she considers to be a genuine chance, maybe that will give her the kickstart she needs. Snow can give her chance after chance, but Regina’s never gonna believe that she’s genuine because there’s just too much history there. Any of the major characters, or even the recurring ones, she’s never gonna buy it if they extend a hand. Someone from outside that circle though, she might just give in a little bit. And as of right now, I can’t think of anyone else who could fit that bill, except for potentially Robin.

Regina, I think when all is said and done, needs to be with someone who is just as morally off kilter as she is. She is not Regina from Stable Boy anymore. She may want to be but part of her will always be the Evil Queen. She needs someone who can temper that in her, but also enjoys it in her.

Ya see, I think she does have the potential to go back to just being Queen without the Evil in front of it. K&H constantly drill into us that this show is about hope. If there’s no way that Regina can get back to that good person she once was when she was truly happy, then where’s the hope for her? Nothing she does in the future will be able to erase what she’s done, all of those mistakes would make up the new version of her, but at least she’d have learned some very valuable and painful lessons from it and wouldn’t make those mistakes again.

I’ve gotta laugh, because re-watching S1 over the last week, I’ve sat here thinking, “OMG now I remember why I really despise that woman,” and constantly wanted to reach into the screen to slap her. Hard. Yet here I am, the one saying she can be good again. 😆

[kfchimera]

So you said iconic and morally off-kilter, what if it is PP, because something happens in the storyline and he physically ages, and they cast another actor?  I don’t really like the idea that much.

I think it might be someone in a flashback who does not die but there is a reason why Regina and he part ways.  Parallel to how they introduced Belle.

“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass

[kfchimera]

Could be Lancelot actually–how did Cora know him to copy? He had an affair with his friend’s wife and became a mercenary, but at his heart he was good.

“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass

[RumplesGirl]

Don’t really like that PP idea either, lol. Seems wrong, especially after August’s deaging was met with such hostility and anger.

Lancelot: nope. Adam has confirmed on Twitter that Lance is not retuning, that the rumors that he might be were just rumors. They do not intend to bring him back for the first half.

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

[Slurpeez]

 We’ve seen Robin use magic, so we know he’s not adverse to it and I don’t believe he’d make her give it up.

True, but he used fairy magic to save the lives of his wife and unborn baby. That is a whole different kettle of fish than dark magic. I have a feeling a man of integrity such as Robin Hood couldn’t condone the kind of dark magic that comes from bloodlust, the kind which Cora, Rumple and Regina have all used to kill innocent people before.

It would be nice for her to eventually get a clue and realise that power can be used for good.

I agree that it would be nice, but I don’t think it’s going to happen. Even though Regina has channeled her magic for good in the past to save lives (in 2×11 and 2×22), it’s always been short-lived. Based on a few spoilers for S3, it already sounds like Regina is back in full Evil Queen mode and killing people early in S3. As long as Regina continues to cling to her magic and to her past, I think she’ll be unable to move forward. She needs to give up being the “Evil Queen” who can wield dark magic to move forward.

I keep going back to the TVGuide Lightening Round 8 article:

Will Regina get a love interest?
Horowitz: Yes.

Kitsis: Will she chose to love is another question.

We know for certain a new love interest will enter Regina’s life. What is far less certain is whether she’ll actually choose love (seems to parallel Rumple and Belle’s turbulent relationship and their love vs.power debate). The reason I doubt Regina could maintain her power and do good with it long-term is that Rumple said he would use his power to help free the children from the Ogres War and then lust of power consumed him as the Dark One. Regina choosing to do good magic while also having the love of a good man sounds all good and dandy on paper, but far less likely in practice. Regina is addicted to magic, and I think the only way that she (or Rumple for that matter) could be redeemed is to go cold turkey and give up magic completely. (Emma might be the exception here since she’s True Love incarnate and love is the greatest magic of all). What Emma realizes is that True Love is Power. Regina and Rumple need to be reminded of that.

Assuming that Robin Hood is a potential suitor and ever could overlook Regina’s sins (which seems like a tall order indeed), what remains uncertain is whether Regina would ever accept that kind of love in return. Could she really learn to love again after holding onto hate for so long? I think it’s possible, but I think it will be a choice whether to choose love over power. Also, now that Henry will see magic up front and the harm that it does, he too will also want his mom to give up the magic.

Ya see, I think she does have the potential to go back to just being Queen without the Evil in front of it. K&H constantly drill into us that this show is about hope. If there’s no way that Regina can get back to that good person she once was when she was truly happy, then where’s the hope for her? Nothing she does in the future will be able to erase what she’s done, all of those mistakes would make up the new version of her, but at least she’d have learned some very valuable and painful lessons from it and wouldn’t make those mistakes again.

Yes, I agree with you here. Since this show is all about hope, I think Regina can become good again. She was willing to die as Regina, rather than as the Evil Queen. I just fear that the events of S3 might delay/put off that possible outcome for a bit. Lana Parrilla has said Regina is going to unleash her  fury in S3 and kill someone and love it. If Regina ever hopes to keep the love of a good man, she can’t just off people using her magic, especially if the person she kills is Tamara, the long-lost daughter of said good man.

"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

[Josephine]

On the other, Robin Hood, however iconic his legend is, has rejected the life of a landed gentry for that of an honorable woodsman, so he’s rather like Graham in that respect. Regina might “overshadow” Robin with her grandeur and royal trappings, whereas he will continue to fight for the oppressed, because that is just the kind of man he is. I suspect Regina would have to give up her power, magic, and wealth for the sake of loving a bandit like RH. I fear Regina may have gotten too accustomed to power and wealth to go back to the Regina she was when Daniel asked her to marry him. We’ll see.

Actually, Robin didn’t reject the life of the gentry.  He was forced out of it by what was happening to his people.  And in the end he ended up marrying the King of England’s niece, which would definitely make him one of the royal family.  I have no idea if they’re going the royal route with this Marian, but all versions I’ve known she’s the niece of King Richard the Lionhearted.    I just wish that Adam would respond in any way to any of the tweets about Marian, I know I tweeted about it and I saw a few others do the same.  But never an answer.  Either, it’s going to be a plot point or he’s just uninterested.  Either way, I’d even appreciate a “keep watching”  or “ooh, that’s a good idea” rather than silence on the issue.

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