Tv Guide -Regina's love interest

[runaroundmacy]

I kind of see it somewhere in the middle. In my head, Regina needs someone who doesn’t vilify her for using magic, but doesn’t always approve of how she uses it. Someone who doesn’t care that she’s the queen, but someone who respects her as her own person. Someone who allows her to be who she is, but deep down sees a part of her that is still Regina, and brings out the part of Regina that is still in her. Someone that is strong enough to stand up to her, and someone who she will respect and listen to. Someone who won’t be controlled or try to control her. Someone who can love her for who she is, and still call her on her.. shenanigans. In other words, a real 50/50 relationship. I dont know who that is or will end up being, just the type of person I imagine for her.

[Slurpeez]

Wow, lots has been said since my last post! Forgive me if I’ve missed something important or repeat something that’s already been said.

But, in my opinion, putting Regina with someone that we would label “good” and thus turning her into this “good” person and negating her Evil Queen-ness almost makes her like Snow and Charming and it isn’t true to her character.  

Hoping that Regina could truly reform or that she’ll one day find her HEA doesn’t negate all the evil she’s done. True redemption is realizing the errors of one’s ways and then repenting of the pain done unto others. She’s going to have to work really hard all the rest of her days and  ask for forgiveness from those she has wronged, especially from the Charmings. Then she is going to have truly change her ways, and, in my opinion, really avoid doing anything magical. A true addict can recover but only by really abstaining and wanting to do so for one’s own sake. Also, any potential love interest would need to support her in this. (If anyone has ever seen When a Man Loves a Woman, the husband tries really hard, first the wrong way, and then the right way to help his wife, who is an alcoholic. It’s a really powerful movie).

Even when she was Regina in “Stable Boy” she was still somewhat defiant. She was willing to defy her mother, go against class and social norms. And yes, it was in the name of love, and thus commendable, but still wasn’t a compliant person. She wanted what she wanted.

I agree that Regina has always wanted freedom from her mother, and she saw Daniel as her ticket to freedom. While she was willing to risk all by running away with Daniel, she was still compliant and having to sneak around, mostly because she feared what her mother would do if she found out. As a victim of abuse, Regina feared her mother’s retribution because she had been punished her whole life by her mother. Yet, when Cora, murdered Daniel before her eyes, Regina lashed out at Snow, a weak target, rather than taking out her anger directly at her mother. And so, the cycle of abuse has continued, with Regina the abused becoming the abuser. She can learn to break the cycle with Henry, but it’s going to take untold effort on Regina’s part, and that, I believe means giving up the magic to which she has become addicted.

Snow, on the other hand, generally puts people before herself. That’s one of her character traits. Even when she wanted her mother to live, she couldn’t bring herself to kill another person. Snow was willing to die because she felt that she had ruined Regina’s life. Snow and Regina were vastly different even before all their own drama together. We can’t expect Regina to convert to being Snow, which is almost what is sounds like Phee is proposing, a sort of sweeping character development that takes her to saint-like status, such as Snow it.

To be fair, I don’t think that Phee was proposing Regina could just suddenly flip an automatic switch and magically erase her past. She was suggesting that Regina, with the support of a love interest, could eventually learn to channel her magic and power for the good of her people. While I have disagreed that Regina could learn to control her magic for good, since she’s an addict, I do agree that Regina could eventually be redeemed if she really wanted it for herself and for the sake of others. But Regina would need to have true contriteness and actually feel remorse for what’s she done and then need to choose to change for real. That, I believe, means giving up the magic.

One more point, the idea of a man influencing her. This makes me cringe a bit because it almost sounds like she Regina has no agency and can’t change unless someone is there directing her. This was the MAJOR issues I had with “We are Both” where it many people started to claim that Regina was only the way she was because of her Mother and Rumple. But that’s not true. In the end, she chose magic and power, even though she didn’t want to become her mother; she became Cora, right down to the heart collecting. There was something in her that longed for that power, much like Rumple, to deal with feeling powerless in other aspects of their life. Rumple was the village coward and Regina was emotionally beaten by Cora but she still CHOSE to become what she did. She has her own agency and I don’t think you’re trying to take it away, but I really need her to redeem, as much as any addict can and still be true to the character they are, I need her to do it on her own. Which is why I think it’s better for a man who is equally “gray” morally to be there. They’ll understand each other. He won’t be constantly pushing her toward “white-hat good” because she had never been that and to ask her to be that is removing her own agency and forcing her into a mold to which she does not belong.

I agree here. If Regina is ever going to change, she needs to take responsibility for her actions! No person, man, woman or child can make her change or force her to realize her past sins. Regina is a free agent who can choose to do right or wrong. So, she alone is going to have to reform her ways. Yet, I do think that having the aid of a loving person to help spur you and give you “tough love” and support is the way to go. Regina needs someone to call forth the best from her and to be there for her even as she grapples and wrestles whether to take another swig of the bottle, so to speak. So, someone who has morally struggled before might understand where she is coming from and what she is wrestling with. Who knows? Maybe this version of RH will have shades of grey to him. While he is a noble character who does things for the good of others, maybe he is a “reformed highwayman” who used to steal and plunder for himself but then he “saw the light” and started to steal from the rich to give away to the poor. While a bandit, RH has since become a heroic figure. That would sorta meet my desire for a “reformed pirate” type for Regina (yes, I’m still bemoaning the dwindling possibility of HookedQueen).

I kind of see it somewhere in the middle. In my head, Regina needs someone who doesn’t vilify her for using magic, but doesn’t always approve of how she uses it. Someone who doesn’t care that she’s the queen, but someone who respects her as her own person. Someone who allows her to be who she is, but deep down sees a part of her that is still Regina, and brings out the part of Regina that is still in her. Someone that is strong enough to stand up to her, and someone who she will respect and listen to. Someone who won’t be controlled or try to control her. Someone who can love her for who she is, and still call her on her.. shenanigans. In other words, a real 50/50 relationship. I dont know who that is or will end up being, just the type of person I imagine for her.

This! Yes, please! A good man (or woman) is hard to find! Here’s hoping that Regina could be lucky enough in love (twice) to find a true love such as this. May we all be so fortunate in life!

Maybe find a great soulmate for Regina if she’d only let love in. 

Thanks for sharing those timely tweets! Yes, if only Regina would let love in, then she might actually feel like someone cared enough for her to be herself, the Regina she lost touch with so long ago. I agree that True Love can make us go the distance and help motivate people to change. I wonder if that tweet about Robin Hood following that other tweet could be a hint that he’s “the one” for Regina. I just hope that means Regina doesn’t kill any long lost child of RH! That would really screw things up.

"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

[Phee]

Pretty sure it was around this time that I said something like *waits for Phee to do victory dance*

😆 ‘Tis foolish to do a victory dance unless and until you actually see the thing happen in the show. Ain’t gonna lie though, I do think the spoilers from D23 support the theory. 😉

“Lots more” Robin coming, but no word about Marian? There was that actress who could have potentially been a re-cast Marian who arrived in Vancouver when the rest of the cast returned from CC, and that was around the time when it seems Sean Maguire arrived in Vancouver too. But if they’d re-cast Marian with the intent of keeping her around to be involved in future storylines, you’d think they’d have promoted that re-casting when they promoted the Robin re-casting, because Robin and Marian are a major couple. Instead, we’ve heard that he’s gonna have a storyline involving Belle. I think the lack of Marian press suggests that she’s gonna be dead in present day, which means Robin will be an eligible candidate for a new love.

Also the way they used the word “soulmate” when referring to Regina’s new love interest, makes me think that this new guy will ultimately be her endgame. And like I’ve said previously, I think her endgame will also involve her being redeemed to the point of being able to have a trusting relationship with Henry. So think her “soulmate” will have to be someone who will impact her in a positive way.

I kind of see it somewhere in the middle. In my head, Regina needs someone who doesn’t vilify her for using magic, but doesn’t always approve of how she uses it. Someone who doesn’t care that she’s the queen, but someone who respects her as her own person. Someone who allows her to be who she is, but deep down sees a part of her that is still Regina, and brings out the part of Regina that is still in her. Someone that is strong enough to stand up to her, and someone who she will respect and listen to. Someone who won’t be controlled or try to control her. Someone who can love her for who she is, and still call her on her.. shenanigans. In other words, a real 50/50 relationship. I dont know who that is or will end up being, just the type of person I imagine for her.

You pretty much just described my headcanon version of RH, especially the bit about him being strong enough to stand up to her, and she’ll have the ability to respect his opinion.

And so, the cycle of abuse has continued, with Regina the abused becoming the abuser. She can learn to break the cycle with Henry, but it’s going to take untold effort on Regina’s part,

And we’ve already had this theme of ending the destructive cycle brought up…

Emma: Great. Go talk to him, then. But… Don’t break his heart.

Neal: Trust me – I’m not going do to him what he did to me.

Emma: Or what you did to me.

Neal: Okay. I get it. We’re all messed up. What do you say we try to avoid that with him? Alright?

…so I can see them continuing it with Regina breaking her own family’s cycle of abuse with Henry as well.

[kfchimera]

I liked what Runaround said.

@LanaOurQueen @rochiss271 not confirming anything.   Cause I generally don’t do spoilers.

— Adam Horowitz (@AdamHorowitzLA) August 9, 2013

@LoganXfiles @sofaki26 have never spoiled a triangle with any one.  That’s fans reading into our answers to fan questions.

— Adam Horowitz (@AdamHorowitzLA) August 11, 2013

I am trying (and failing ) to embed a tweet here.  I think Adam said they are not confirming tink as the LI because no spoilers, so then someone said what about Captainswanfire? And he is saying that is not confirmed either.  The whole chain implies it may have started with a question about Regina but not sure.  It did start with that LanaourQueeen user ranting a bit that Tink as LI would make no sense.  No idea how to embed though, but I searched her tweets to see if I could find the start of the conversation.

“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass

[Phee]

Yes, I think someone tweeted him saying how it would ruin the show if Tink and Regina were a couple, and he was basically trying to say that that’s just fan speculation, they haven’t said anything about it, so don’t freak out over the theory, and it became an overblown thing when someone interpreted one of his replies as being a confirmation of the theory, and then he started talking about how he doesn’t give away blatant spoilers, because he doesn’t think they’re fun. I’m on his side for everything except that last part. 😛

[kfchimera]

Well if they give too many blatant spoilers, we won’t have room for our crack theories so I’m ok with that 🙂

“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass

[Josephine]

I’ve been listening to my iTunes and evidently all songs remind me of someone on Ouat. Sometimes I think I need 12 step detox program instead of this forum. 😛  Anyway, the chorus of the Brandi Carlile song “Hiding My Hear” reminds me of Regina:

I wish I could lay down beside you when the day is done
And wake up to your face against the morning sun
But like everything I’ve ever known you disappeared one day
So I’ll spend my whole hiding my heart away
And I could spend my whole life hiding my heart away

Eddy and Adam have teased that she might not be open to love again and fight against it. I can see herself guarding her heard and not wanting to let anyone in.  In the past, she knows that romantic love only leads to heartbreak and the only way to have a relationship is to be dominant and manipulative.  She won’t want to go back to being vulnerable again.  What’s ironic is that she’s desperate to love someone.  She wanted Hansel and Gretel to stay with her, same with Kurt and Owen.  Then she adopted Henry.  She yearns for love but doesn’t go about it in any kind of healthy way.  And then wonders why nobody likes her.  Poor girl needs intense counseling before she’s ready for any type of relationship.

Keeper of Rumplestiltskin's and Neal's spears and war paint and crystal ball.

[PriceofMagic]

Could they maybe do Flynn Rider as Regina’s love interest?

All magic comes with a price!

Keeper of Felix

[kfchimera]

I think Regina is in a place similar to that of Kym in the movie Rachel Getting Married.  I don’t think she is ready for full on romance yet.  She needs to learn to be part of Henry’s family first, confront her past as an abuser and as abused (by Cora).  She has her own “we are both” thing to work out–she isn’t innocent Regina, but its between Mayor Mills, driven single mom and Evil queen, hung up on revenge and power.  I think Regina may deny it, may have corrupted it, but she does want more than just her lost romantic love or Henry’s–she also wants to be part of a family.  She just doesn’t know how and it is never going to be easy.

“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass

[Josephine]

Flynn Rider is only permitted to be on this show if Zachary Levi plays him.  If they can’t get Zach, then I don’t want the character on the show.  😛

 

 

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