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August 21, 2013 at 9:53 am #206056RumplesGirlKeymaster
Do you Tinkerbell is still a fairy then? She gave up her wings to be a mother to Peter Pan, or perhaps she fled just in the nick of time before the BF could demote her status.
I think she’s still a fairy. We know she is being introduced in 303 and that she has a connection to someone (probably Regina) which would indicate that she has to be able to travel between worlds. Beans and the Shadow seem to be the only two ways to get to NL at the moment, but Tink, the fairy, was able to travel on her own. So in order for her to be coming and going from NL to FTL and back again, I think she has to be a fairy still.
Traditionally, Peter Pan is not an orphan. He runs away from home as a week-old infant because he hears of his parents’ plans for him as an adult and he does’t want to grow up. So, he seeks refuge with the fairies of Kensington Gardens. After a while, he returns home, because he fears his mother will miss him. However, he’s saddened that his mother has had another baby and doesn’t seem to miss him at all. So, PP goes to NL. Yet, Tink could still be a stand-in figure for his mother in a way that Wendy traditionally has been cast.
Thanks for the clarification. Knew it was something like that.
I definitely think there are many different forms of love. We’ve seen how Emma awoke her son from the sleeping curse with a maternal TLK rather than a romantic one. It would be an interesting parallel if we saw Tinkerbell have maternal love for Peter Pan. Yet, he is the brattiest and most devious boy ever. How could he have turned out so twisted if he had Tink’s maternal love? She’d have to be a pretty rotten mother for him to turn out so unless his bad actions are accounted for by some dark curse despite all of Tink’s efforts to influence him for the better. Yet, from what I know of “Violet” (aka Tinkerbell) from her casting call, she is a bit of a party girl. So, I’m not sure that Tink could handle motherhood that easily.
I feel like this might be a nature vs nurture debate, lol. Regina wasn’t a stellar mother to Henry once Emma shows up, she even says she doesn’t know how to love very well. And before Emma came to town she had put him in therapy and enforced the idea that he was having flights of fancy. Yet Henry is probably the truest believer and turned out pretty good–at least, nowhere near as devious as PP is being set up. So, even if Tink was a loving mother PP may still have turned out the way he is, especially if he thinks he has to save NL and will do whatever it takes. It could also be that Tink spoiled PP rotten, as the saying goes, and that he now thinks he can have whatever he wants and Tink is watching her son make all these horrible mistakes but doesn’t want to correct him out of love or fear. OR she fully supports his behavior.
[adrotate group="5"]"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"August 21, 2013 at 10:04 am #206058SlurpeezParticipantI feel like this might be a nature vs nurture debate, lol. Regina wasn’t a stellar mother to Henry once Emma shows up, she even says she doesn’t know how to love very well. And before Emma came to town she had put him in therapy and enforced the idea that he was having flights of fancy. Yet Henry is probably the truest believer and turned out pretty good–at least, nowhere near as devious as PP is being set up. So, even if Tink was a loving mother PP may still have turned out the way he is, especially if he thinks he has to save NL and will do whatever it takes. It could also be that Tink spoiled PP rotten, as the saying goes, and that he now thinks he can have whatever he wants and Tink is watching her son make all these horrible mistakes but doesn’t want to correct him out of love or fear. OR she fully supports his behavior.
I agree that Regina is no “Mother of the Year” to Henry. Yet, at least she did instill discipline into Henry. Regina had plenty of discipline from Cora, and so she set certain restrictions to check some of Henry’s defiant behavior. That can be both a good and a bad thing. Children need boundaries mixed with love, otherwise they become unruly. I think that is the case with Peter Pan. He has always lacked boundaries from any sort of responsible parental figure. Since Tinerkbell sounds like an irresponsible adult and more of a flighty mischief-maker herself, I highly doubt she even knew how to be a good role model or parental figure to PP. And so, PP has turned out to be a highly naughty, even nasty sort of rebellious teenager.
Side-note: How is it that PP ever reached adolescence if time is frozen in NL? Wouldn’t he have remained whatever age he was upon his arrival in NL? If PP came to NL as a young boy, how is it that he has reached the age of 17? Could it be that all the time he spends flying between NL and Earth has slowly added up over the centuries such that he ages a day for every day he spends on Earth? Otherwise, PP must have come to NL as a teenager and has remained so ever since.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
August 21, 2013 at 10:16 am #206062PheeParticipantI don’t have any hard and fast theories for what I think Tink’s deal is. But PP had to get to NL somehow. Perhaps Tink took him? Why would Tink take him? Because her boss Blue gave her the task? If so, why would Blue want PP in NL?
August 21, 2013 at 10:19 am #206063RumplesGirlKeymasterAll good points, Slurpeez! Though, to be a pain, we don’t know if NL is frozen or if it just moves really slowly. Like 100 years in NL = 1 year in normal time, or something akin to that.
Tink being a mother figure presents a lot of problems, I agree. I have no headcanon where she is concerned but like Phee said, Peter had to get to NL somehow and Tink seems the most logical choice, but for reasons we don’t yet know.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"August 21, 2013 at 10:22 am #206064SlurpeezParticipantI don’t have any hard and fast theories for what I think Tink’s deal is. But PP had to get to NL somehow. Perhaps Tink took him? Why would Tink take him? Because her boss Blue gave her the task? If so, why would Blue want PP in NL?
As it stands, Tinkerbell is the likeliest candidate for taking PP to NL. In the movie “Hook” Tink is the one who found baby Peter in Kensington Gardens and carried him in a blanket to NL. There is also a flashback of him at different stage of his childhood from infancy – adolescence. Yet, the mystery remains how he became a teenager. He’s supposed to be the boy who never grew up. Yet, even in J.M. Barrie’s mythology, this point wasn’t really flushed out. PP started out as a baby in Kensington Gardens, went to NL with the fairies, and yet somehow grew into a boy, despite the fact that no one in NL grows up. Perhaps children can age up to 17 but then stop short right on the brink of 18, which is the age of “legal” adulthood.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
August 21, 2013 at 10:34 am #206067PheeParticipantAt the moment, I’m thinking he was just taken there as a teen. Not necessarily at 17 though. Maybe the magic in NL is weakening and it’s making people begin to slowly age?
August 21, 2013 at 10:35 am #206069RumplesGirlKeymasterAt the moment, I’m thinking he was just taken there as a teen. Not necessarily at 17 though. Maybe the magic in NL is weakening and it’s making people begin to slowly age?
Could be that is why he needs Henry, to stop the magic from leaving NL altogether. I wonder if the magic began to weaken with the Dark Curse….
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"August 21, 2013 at 10:53 am #206073kfchimeraParticipantA new spin on Tinker-momma, as irresponsible teen mom to PP? interesting.
“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass
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