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December 16, 2015 at 9:46 am #314272RainbowParticipant
Actually, can also relate to Peter Pan story in a way and since Eddy is a Peter pan fan, im sure he knows all this, that i will post below. Maybe Hook and Liam ended with him after their father abandoned them, but they ended riot and went to the Navy, that would explain why after Liam death Hook went to be a pirate, many people thought that was something not explained in 305, why instead of fighting the king he had such a easy way to become a pirate, bc he grew up near someone that was a sort of pirate,mixed with some emotional, sad story that was never mentioned until now, bc Plot demands.
Captain Hook also knew Long John Silver. Despite being in different novels by different authors, it seems that Hook and Silver crossed paths. JM Barrie and Treasure Island author Robert Louis Stevenson were contemporaries and knew each other, hence the cross-over.
http://www.theguardian.com/childrens-books-site/2014/nov/25/top-10-things-peter-pan-facts-jm-barrieTreasure Island is an adventure novel by Scottish author Robert Louis Stevenson, narrating a tale of “pirates and buried gold”. First published as a book in 1883, it was originally serialized in the children’s magazine Young Folks between 1881-82 under the title The Sea Cook, or Treasure Island. J. M. Barrie was a fan of the book, and later became a penpal with Stevenson. Barrie drew inspiration from it for the pirates in his own story of Peter Pan and Captain Hook, and even referred to the character of Captain Flint by name in Peter and Wendy.
http://neverpedia.com/pan/Treasure_Island
Barbecue is the nickname of Long John Silver, the primary antagonist of Robert Louis Stevenson’s influential novel Treasure Island. He is mentioned (using this nickname) by J. M. Barrie in Peter and Wendy. He is also know as “the Sea-Cook” (the alternate title for Stevenson’s novel), as that was his original profession.
In Peter and Wendy, part of Captain Hook’s fierce reputation is Barrie’s claim that “He is the only man of whom Barbecue was afraid.” This is further amplified by the fact that even Captain Flint feared Barbecue. Barbecue taught Hook a sword-fighting maneuver at Rio. However, Peter Pan thinks that he slayed Barbecue, with the same sword he takes into battle with Hook. http://neverpedia.com/pan/Barbecue[adrotate group="5"]"I offended you with my opinion? Ha, you should hear the ones I keep to myself".
December 16, 2015 at 12:43 pm #314278nevermoreParticipantFor once, it looks like they’re introducing a character that is legitimately connected to one of ONCE’s protagonists in the world of fiction in a way that’s not egregiously shoehorned or just straight up cynical Big Mouse opportunism.
At the same time, I’m nervous. I grew up with Stevenson’s books, and adored them. I’d hate to see OUAT butcher these stories and characters. Also, how all of this factors into the Underworld plot, I’m not sure. Except that the concept of the “black spot,” or “black mark” which the POC Dead Man’s Chest “borrowed” originally comes from Stevenson’s Treasure Island. So that’s another connection, however tenuous.
December 16, 2015 at 12:55 pm #314279GaultheriaParticipantNeeds to be related to Rumpel — even not counting the usual reason — because of the name.
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December 16, 2015 at 2:00 pm #314280nevermoreParticipantNeeds to be related to Rumpel — even not counting the usual reason — because of the name.
Good call. And in that case, also Ruby.
December 16, 2015 at 4:08 pm #314285MatthewPaulModeratorFor once, it looks like they’re introducing a character that is legitimately connected to one of ONCE’s protagonists in the world of fiction in a way that’s not egregiously shoehorned or just straight up cynical Big Mouse opportunism.
At the same time, I’m nervous. I grew up with Stevenson’s books, and adored them. I’d hate to see OUAT butcher these stories and characters. Also, how all of this factors into the Underworld plot, I’m not sure. Except that the concept of the “black spot,” or “black mark” which the POC Dead Man’s Chest “borrowed” originally comes from Stevenson’s Treasure Island. So that’s another connection, however tenuous.
The Underworld connection will likely be Liam, since they run into him there.
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