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Well Jamie would be in Van in February to film 50sog, so there would be no need of making stuff to make him go there, in the extreme case of being Neal, i think that the word improbable doesnt mean about storyline, but more, like many people say and is said on the article” cynicals” i include myself there, that MRJ would not return, bc of ship wars , bc of the way as the character and actor were treated and most of all by the reason some say MRJ would not return, bc he has a new show and he is connected to another network.
Then again, since they will have epi 100 i totally expect them to have another premiere with all cast, and we will see in mRJ will be there or not.Once again i still say and hope that is not MRJ, but i also said previously if Neal was to return would be Matt and TV line getting the exclusive.
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I was thinking, yeah this is what happens when I´m sick, I think too much, so this will be long and I will give a spoiler at the end. Even though i still maintain mine 5% chance and I still hope that my dreams (of doing some PSA with OUAT advocates for BKO and then staying there with the guys to hang out and brew they own beer, or a crazy thought, who knows, those 3 are crazy enough to decide to start their own beer brand, they appear to love beer), especially bc they keep bringing other people, why would they make a secret of Neal and MRJ?
The other side of the 5% make me have to admit that are a lot of coincidences in a row and it also leads me to say that this article hints to much to OUAT, “no small feat given how the character in question was originally written off the show.” I would say hints to a dead character and maybe like @Phee said how hard was convincing the actor to return, about the surprising and in the miracle case of being Neal, unless they want to do a “Bold Storyline”, which makes me scared, bc the last time they did that, we got 315.
Like i said before in a previous post, this actually hints to a big secret that everyone had to hide and cover which makes wonder on that Sean words” love when a plan works” or something like that and with the fact that every single pap and fans are always on the airport, makes me wonder how did MRJ passed that line of no one seing him there, unless he came by other means and we all know that OUAT has a long tradition of leaking stuff, so i say if Neal does comeback i will have to for the 1st time in a long time praise the show for keeping secret and having no one spill the secret.
The fan favorite, like @Phee said if was written by Matt he may call Neal fan fav or bc he used to like him, or because of the actor and not character or like i also said bc of that 5 most missed character pca nomination, the fact that he was in the last 5 says a lot.
But I also note the other part, if this will end being Neal, “Although a cynical few might have thought such a homecoming would never happen”, if this was written by Matt, he knows the fandom and knows that many say that Neal would never return bc he had a new show, bc no way he would go to make a cameo on a show that treated him bad with a not so nice fandom towards him, how many say that he would not return bc of him leaving the show was fan service or in the last days I saw online even people going against the actor by saying he would not return because he is not welcome in the show, bc he was bad seed and that he really destroyed the trailers and so on.
And the timing, that I think is mostly the writer opinion nothing related to the item itself, can also connect to the show, not because the UW part, but because a certain couple.
So the spoiler, I was referring in the beginning of this was that I have to say MRJ is weird in who he follows on twitter, the people he follows there is sort of connected to his interests or people he works( he started following Bex like some weeks bf she was announced as actress on S3) so like I was saying, there are some cast members that joined the show after 315 actually follow MRJ without him following them back, cases like frozen storyline Ana and ice queen actresses, Marian actress and the Writer actor.
However last week, I would say after the TCAs on Wednesday and before Seans 1st pic, Cruella actress started following MRJ, which in an ironic way I thought, “oh look she no longer there means that she can now follow him, bc she is now allowed by the powers to be”, so was with great surprise that MRJ started following her back, back then the 1st thing crossed my mind, bc the Neal warning spoiler was out there, was u cant tell me he will be back and they will hint that maybe cruella and Neal knew each other from NY, maybe he worked for her, so which sort of made me wonder what would that mean them following each other and then all Sean and JMO pics and rumours started happening.
But in the i will still live the dream that maybe all ouat cast, or some of them with bko advocates will only be part of psa and nothing to do with filming.
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"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
I can believe this could be about Neal. There’s no one writer credited with the article, and if Matt had anything to do with writing it, he’s someone who I could see labeling Neal as a fan fave. Maybe no other writer would, but Matt was a Neal fan, and as such would be aware that there are indeed many in the fandom who loved the crap outta Neal. The bit about filming in secret still fits if MRJ shot his scenes and was finished before any of those pics of him in Van surfaced. The bit about it being a tricky thing to pull off, given how the character was written off, could refer to how they’ve insisted that Neal is deader than dead. Or (conspiracy theory time) it could refer to it haven taken some convincing to get the actor back, given how their character was treated by being killed off in such a stupid way. And this article popping up right after the speculation of Neal’s return. I could see Matt going to A&E to ask about it, and them saying they didn’t want it officially confirmed, so they agreed to the blind item instead. Basically, all things considered, I’m calling shenanigans and getting all my tables lined up for easy flipping when Neal likely shows up in some infuriating circumstance.
THIS. For all the reasons mentioned above, I think Neal is coming back (or at the very least, MRJ is putting in an appearance).
Also, from the article:
Although a cynical few might have thought such a homecoming would never happen, the truth is that the returning star quite enthusiastically went to great lengths to disguise his/her identity while en route to the set, where the hush-hush scenes were filmed under close guard, and strictly indoors.
If this is about MRJ, I could see him being happy enough to return to the set in secret. Just because many fans were disappointed when Neal left, it doesn’t mean the actor left on bad terms. He is a professional; actors get cut all the time. He understands that the decision probably came from the top at ABC and that A&E probably didn’t like to see MRJ leave when he did. MRJ putting in an appearance for the sake of closure for Neal might be MRJ’s way of trying to honor the memory of the character that many people did like. I also think MRJ might’ve been expecting to return at some point to this show, which is why he has been so silent on his sudden departure in 2013; he never gave a proper exit interview for OUAT the way he did for True Blood after S1 when his character left that show. A&E have also openly said they’d love to work with MRJ again.
Also I would not consider Neal a fan favorite, at least not the way AA and Matt M view OUAT. They both follow the fandom (Matt M more so) and they know that CS/SQ is a far more popular ship and that any time Neal is mentioned they are hit with a ton of negativity. So there’s far too many X’s against this to be Neal to make it confirmed.
Even though there are many vocal fans of a certain ilk who didn’t like his character, I still think many fans did. Even if some people didn’t like Emma and Neal romantically, they did like the dynamic Neal had with Rumple and Henry. After all, Neal was nominated for Most Missed Character by the People Choice Awards last year. And if Matt M. wrote this blind article, it would be in keeping with his previous coverage of Neal since MRJ left the show. He was considered the Most Missed Character in 2015 by TV Line.
From the article:
As for the on-screen ramifications of the long-gone character’s reappearance, one should expect more than a little drama. His/her timing… could be better, yeah.
Interesting…If handled correctly, this could be done well. Henry needs closure with his dad, and Rumple needs a way to atone for how poorly he’s behaved since Neal traded his life for his papa. If this Underworld thing drags on until the end of the season, I could totally see Rumple staying behind in the Underworld to let Neal return to the land do the living as a way to atone for how horribly Rumple screwed up his second chance (especially if Robert Carlyle leaves after this season since his contract will be up). However, that would probably be too much to expect from these writers. I don’t trust them to handle Neal’s likely return nearly that well.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
Whether or not this particular blind item has to do with Neal is up in the air (there are some other options people are throwing out that fit a bit more readily with the article. Like Izzy Stevens from GA; improbable and surprising not only because her character left many a moon ago, but also because Shonda Rhimes has said that she’d never have the actress Kathrine Higel reappear. But Shonda has also pretty much stepped down from GA in recent years to focus on Scandal.) Neal’s appearance doesn’t fall under the improbable return realm since the characters are in the Underworld with *tons* of dead people scheduled to appear, not to mention that dead is dead is something of a joke on this show.
With that said, I do lean strongly toward Neal appearing in OUAT 512. However, I don’t think it’s going to be this heartfelt reunion, closure type deal that people want it to be. It said that the actor filmed his scenes only last week, but it does NOT say all week. We know that the main characters connected to Neal (Emma and Rumple) were filming other things for the current episode in question, 517, last week. It’s more likely that Neal filmed his 512 scenes this past week–hence Isham’s “to be filmed” spoiler that takes place at the top of the hour. We know he was in Vancity for the weekend right after the TCA’s, his GoS panel ending in the middle of week. So, if he did film, it’s more probable that he flew up to Vancity, shot his stuff on Friday, hung out with Sean and Colin (and others) on the weekend and then departed, allowing the rest of the cast to resume their filming of 517. In other words, if he shot for 512, whatever it was is brief. Brief enough to be done in a day with little fuss.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"If this Underworld thing drags on until the end of the season, I could totally see Rumple staying behind in the Underworld to let Neal return to the land do the living as a way to atone for how horribly Rumple screwed up his second chance (especially if Robert Carlyle leaves after this season since his contract will be up). However, that would probably be too much to expect from these writers. I don’t trust them to handle Neal’s likely return nearly that well.
The problem with Neal returning to the land of the living, whether MRJ returns for Season 5 or not, is that MRJ is still a series regular on a different show on a competing network. He’s also not just a series regular on Game of Silence, but the 2nd billed lead of it. There’s already been talk of doing a 2nd Season, too. OUAT Season 5 is supposed to wrap up filming by April 1st, while Game of Silence doesn’t premiere until April 7th. Neal returning as a guest star this Season is one thing, but to expect him to actually return as a series regular is another thing entirely. Even if Adam and Eddy actually wanted him back permanently, there’s little they can do when the actor is already committed as a series regular on another show.
The problem with Neal returning to the land of the living, whether MRJ returns for Season 5 or not, is that MRJ is still a series regular on a different show on a competing network. He’s also not just a series regular on Game of Silence, but the 2nd billed lead of it. There’s already been talk of doing a 2nd Season, too. OUAT Season 5 is supposed to wrap up filming by April 1st, while Game of Silence doesn’t premiere until April 7th. Neal returning as a guest star this Season is one thing, but to expect him to actually return as a series regular is another thing entirely. Even if Adam and Eddy actually wanted him back permanently, there’s little they can do when the actor is already committed as a series regular on another show.
Firstly, I qualified by reply by saying, “However, that would probably be too much to expect from these writers. I don’t trust them to handle Neal’s likely return nearly that well.” At the end of the day, I think it depends what the writers intend for Neal’s character (if they even intend anything all). For example, Neal could return to the land of the living but not stay in SB. For instance, he could always return to Manhattan. From a narrative stance, Neal’s apartment has repetitively been shown, leaving open that door of possibility for Neal’s possible return. Neal doesn’t have to resume a romance with Emma. Neal could simply return to Manhattan, and Henry could always visit his dad in NYC during his summer break. Secondly, we don’t know for sure how much longer the show is going to last or whether there even will be a season 6. We also don’t know yet if there will be a season 2 for Game of Silence or if MRJ’s character even survives for the second season. All being said, we just don’t know what to expect. This (probably) is just going be a one-off cameo (assuming this blind item even is about MRJ putting in an appearance as Neal).
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
shot his stuff on Friday, hung out with Sean and Colin (and others) on the weekend and then departed,
Yeah, we know that MRJ was at TCA NBC party on wednesday night, some reporters mentioned talking with him there, meaning that until 8.30pm on 13th Jan, he was in LA, then Sean posted the 1st pic on Friday night i believe, then there was another one from monday i think and then on the 19th at least they were still in vancouver, since JMo was having drinks that night with Seans, Colins and MRJ`s wives on that night, she posted on the 20th on her ig, unless that pic was really on the 20th and not 19th like she posted on her ig, HERE so they left Vancouver on wednesday 20th or the lastest 21st, well at least i think they did, since no one saw them leave like they didnt saw them arriving, but MRJ has Finest world premiere on Monday in La, so they may have gone already.
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From a narrative stance, Neal’s apartment has repetitively been shown, leaving open that door of possibility for Neal’s possible return. Neal doesn’t have to resume a romance with Emma. Neal could simply return to Manhattan, and Henry could always visit his dad in NYC during his summer break.
From a character stance, it wouldn’t make sense for Neal to just up sticks and leave Henry behind in Storybrooke, especially as Neal’s death came about because he was so desperate to get back to Henry. Neal missed out on 11 years of Henry’s life, no way he would willingly miss out on more and just settle for school holidays. Neal would either stay in Storybrooke but just be constantly off screen (like most of the Storybrooke residents) and we only hear about him as Henry mentions the great time he had with his dad, or Neal goes back to Manhattan, takes Henry with him because Storybrooke has become too dangerous then Jared Gilmore is written out of the show because Henry has become irrelevant to the story. However this presents the problem that Regina wouldn’t want to lose her son. Though the writers could probably butcher Regina’s character by having her sending Henry off with Neal where she’ll never see him again but everything will be okay because she’s happy with Robin.
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Keeper of FelixWe also don’t know yet if there will be a season 2 for Game of Silence or if MRJ’s character even survives for the second season.
Well taking in consideration everyone speaking about S2 i wonder if there is some sort of deal bwt Sony and NbC and about his character dying, yep , wont happen, MRJ himself said on TCA that if a S2 happens all this characters will have new secrets to show. And is based on turkish show, on S1 the 4 main characters dont die, only on the last season of that show, one of them dies and is not the Turkish version of of MRJ character.
rom a character stance, it wouldn’t make sense for Neal to just up sticks and leave Henry behind in Storybrooke, especially as Neal’s death came about because he was so desperate to get back to Henry. Neal missed out on 11 years of Henry’s life, no way he would willingly miss out on more and just settle for school holidays. Neal would either stay in Storybrooke but just be constantly off screen (like most of the Storybrooke residents) and we only hear about him as Henry mentions the great time he had with his dad, or Neal goes back to Manhattan, takes Henry with him because Storybrooke has become too dangerous then Jared Gilmore is written out of the show because Henry has become irrelevant to the story. However this presents the problem that Regina wouldn’t want to lose her son. Though the writers could probably butcher Regina’s character by having her sending Henry off with Neal where she’ll never see him again but everything will be okay because she’s happy with Robin.
Im no professional writer but this is very simple to write, again in the miracle case of any of this happens and in the case of S6 having a half arc and GoS has a S2 that may be filmed again from end august to december, in that improbable case, the ouat writers can write Neal going to NY to solve some things, and then another villain comes to SB, doesnt let anyone in or out and that would mean no Nneal in SB until they defeat the bad guy, in one last scene. Is very easy to write that.
But like i said has 5% chances of MRJ appears on 512, in a ghost version in this way he would not interact with any other character, he will just give a warning and then puff gone, to never appear again, so i dont this blind item is about Neal, especially bc i think that a 10 seconds appearance would not be worth of having a article for blind item, i have this idea that the blind items are important storylines to the shows that will have impact on it and Neal ghost warning is not a storyline that change the show as we saw in later spoiler pics for other epis, the characters dont seem even affected by anything, in fact, i would say the only things about Neal that would be life changing, would be him being alive(in a retcon i mean, we saw a coffin but not a open one, the last time we saw Neal he was lying dead in the forest with zelena), bring him to life or OUAT pulling a Grimm, by bringing MRJ to play someone that would look like Neal and would have neal memories but would not be Neal, but we all know none of these options will happen.
But then if Neal will be in a “ghost” scene a la star wars, MRJ didnt even needed to go to Van, he could film in LA at ABC studios and then they would have insert the scene in the editing, after all he did the same in S2, he filmed in NY and not Van.
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