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Having recently explored Camelot and no less than Hell, the heroes of ABC’s Once Upon a Time will spend Season 6 “back home” in Storybrooke — where they just got some uninvited (and perhaps restless) guests.
With the season premiere arriving Sunday at 8/7c, TVLine spoke with series creators Adam Horowitz and Eddy Kitsis about telling Aladdin’s and other “untold “stories, Emma the Savior’s discovery, the Evil Queen’s “delicious” attack plan and so much more. (Yes, excerpts of the following have previously appeared on TVLine.)
Read more here: http://tvline.com/2016/09/21/once-upon-a-time-season-6-preview-emma-aladdin-saviors-untold-stories/
[adrotate group="5"]TVLINE | Why is lording over Storybrooke so important to Mr. Hyde (played by Smallville‘s Sam Witwer)?
KITSIS | It is the place where he can have his story play out. When we get into his backstory, you’ll realize that some people may be in the Land of Untold Stories in a way where they’re “trapped.” So, similar to the way Hook wanted to get to the Land Without Magic, so he could kill Gold, you’ll realize Hyde wants to get to Storybrooke so that his story can play out.
I still find this problematic–the story of Jekyll and Hyde *is* a complete story in our world. The novella has a very clear ending, a very clear message and thesis. I know the writers don’t really think in these terms but I find it problematic.
TVLINE | Where are we entering the Aladdin story, in the scheme of what we already know about it?
HOROWITZ | It’s a tricky question to answer. Given the nature of our show with flashbacks and different timelines, we may be entering it at multiple points. Where we see [the story at] in the premiere episode is a very different point from where we enter it later in the season.
Okay but what I really want to know is about Jafar. Where are these flashbacks on his timeline. Is he Aladdin’s Genie?
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"I still find this problematic–the story of Jekyll and Hyde *is* a complete story in our world. The novella has a very clear ending, a very clear message and thesis. I know the writers don’t really think in these terms but I find it problematic.
As we’ve talked about before, this doesn’t just apply to Jekyll and Hyde, though. Most of the stories we’ve seen adapted on OUAT have taken place years after the stories in our world were already written. The ending to Aurora and Rapunzel’s stories even occurred post-Curse.
I still find this problematic–the story of Jekyll and Hyde *is* a complete story in our world. The novella has a very clear ending, a very clear message and thesis. I know the writers don’t really think in these terms but I find it problematic.
As we’ve talked about before, this doesn’t just apply to Jekyll and Hyde, though. Most of the stories we’ve seen adapted on OUAT have taken place years after the stories in our world were already written. The ending to Aurora and Rapunzel’s stories even occurred post-Curse.
Yes but I’m still bothered by *all* this and would really like an explanation about how Snow White could be a centuries old tale when OUAT’s Snow White is only about (including Curse) 60 some years old, with the well known elements of her story (the apple, the huntsman) occurring 40+ years ago. Since time in concurrent, as A and E keep telling us, then how.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"They should have just had the author be able to time travel. That would be all you would need to do. The author can time travel, but not effect anything.
I still find this problematic–the story of Jekyll and Hyde *is* a complete story in our world. The novella has a very clear ending, a very clear message and thesis. I know the writers don’t really think in these terms but I find it problematic.
As we’ve talked about before, this doesn’t just apply to Jekyll and Hyde, though. Most of the stories we’ve seen adapted on OUAT have taken place years after the stories in our world were already written. The ending to Aurora and Rapunzel’s stories even occurred post-Curse.
Yes but I’m still bothered by *all* this and would really like an explanation about how Snow White could be a centuries old tale when OUAT’s Snow White is only about (including Curse) 60 some years old, with the well known elements of her story (the apple, the huntsman) occurring 40+ years ago. Since time in concurrent, as A and E keep telling us, then how.
Either they do have some explanation planned towards the end of the series, or it comes down to “your questions are pointless”. Logically, I think the stories were written in our world first, but then these stories somehow spawned the creation of these realms of stories, where the characters came to life with freedom of their own. The main holes in this theory are Frozen and Brave, since those movies were made recently. You could somewhat excuse Frozen, due to the original Snow Queen story. Not so much with Brave, though.
Logically, I think the stories were written in our world first, but then these stories somehow spawned the creation of these realms of stories, where the characters came to life with freedom of their own.
But that’s problematic too because in the case of the more classical fairytales, authorship is shaky at best. How do you deal with, say, traditions of oral storytelling? The Brothers Grimm and other folklorists who collected and adapted folktales aren’t technically their “authors” in any kind of generative sense — more like, cultural translators. And based on the show’s own mythology, the Author isn’t supposed to invent, but record. I think you have to assume the prior existence of all the realms for the show to work, but at some point it just becomes kinda nonsensical (like the multiplication of fictional Londons).
I think they are such a mess with this subject of untold stories, bc is not untold stories they want to tell, they are telling characters that people know that have connection to the SB characters, is no different from past seasons, bc if they were untold stories, they would be original, in the end LoUT is just like storybrooke, a place where characters that everyone knows about, but that still have much to tell after The happily ever after the end of the known stories.Instead of saying that these were untold stories, they should simply have made the characters come to Sb and incorporate them in the terms of SB characters, with past storylines with the other characters, instead of calling them untold stories, bc saying these new characters are untold stories is a lie, in that sense even the SB people are untold stories, in the way that they are known from books but still didn’t end their stories.
I think they just mean not Disney stories. That is really what it is.
well Aladdin is a Disney story, and Emma grew up on land without magic , so she heard about all these stories, bc the stories exist in books in land without magic.
What they could have said and even use to Frozen and Brave was saying that they were introducing the characters, pretending they didn’t exist in fiction ouat world, meaning that even tho the viewers knew those stories, the characters never heard of them. Especially bc they point out that the untold stories characters run away to land on untold stories, bc they didn’t want their story told, which is a lie , bc their story exists in land without magic and in fact they showed that the stories were written in books, that Henry found in NY, so they really were written and are not untold, the characters simply didn’t appeared on the show until now.
Conclusion, they contradict themselves when they say the stories were never written bc the characters didn’t want their stories told, when they showed books with the characters story written, what they wanted to say with untold stories, where that they would show stories until now not mention, but then they give a explanation that makes no sense.But then again would not be ouat if the writers were not confused about what they were saying.
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