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August 15, 2014 at 1:05 pm #280189RumplesGirlKeymaster
ABC’s Once Upon a Time is opening Season 4 with an 11-episode arc that introduces several characters from Disney’s Frozen, an animated blockbuster that most every rugrat has seen, like, seven times by now.
Including young Henry…?While Emma and Regina’s son for three seasons has watched characters from his storybook come to life (for better or worse), is he now about to drop his popcorn upon spying Queen Elsa of Arendelle (played by Fringe‘s Georgina Haig) leap from the big screen into Storybrooke?
As part of our all-encompassing, in-depth Fall Preview interview, I ran that burning question (which I believe was first raised by TVLine reader Gail; please collect your 500 Power User Points!) past Once creators Adam Horowitz and Eddy Kitsis, and the simple answer is no, Henry won’t recognize Elsa & Co. — and for a very good reason.
As Horowitz explains, Once “occurs in a semblance of real time,” starting with Emma Swan’s Oct 23, 2011 birthday aka the series premiere. With Season 2 encompassing less than a year, and even factoring in Season 3’s midseason time jump, “We calculated that we are now living in the early part of 2013,” Horowitz notes. Meaning, Henry not only couldn’t have seen Frozen (a late-November release) yet, but its first teaser trailer won’t hit the Storybrooke Cinema for months.
The other question on many a viewer’s mind is born of a Season 3 that revealed A) Peter Pan to be Rumplestiltskin’s father and B) the Wicked Witch as Regina’s half-sister. So, who in Storybrooke will wind up having family ties to Elsa, Anna or any of the other Frozen visitors?
In a word: nobody. (Cue many sighs of relief.) “We will go on record as saying that we are not going to reveal that, for example, Elsa is somebody’s sister,” Horowitz makes clear.
Once Upon a Time Season 4 premieres Sunday, Sept. 28 at 8/7c.
http://tvline.com/2014/08/15/once-upon-a-time-frozen-who-is-related-to-elsa/
[adrotate group="5"]"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"August 15, 2014 at 1:31 pm #280196obisgirlParticipantI’m glad the relation question was cleared up before the new season starts. No more speculating about that.
What does less than a year mean in regard to season two? I’ve always thought season two took place in less than a month. There’s no way that could span less than a year.
August 15, 2014 at 1:42 pm #280198RumplesGirlKeymasterWhat does less than a year mean in regard to season two? I’ve always thought season two took place in less than a month. There’s no way that could span less than a year
It has to span more than a month. We see actual season changes and one holiday–Halloween. Season one ended in May 2012. Episode 205, The Doctor, took place in the fall, specifically around the time of Halloween given all the SB set decor. However, we all know that makes no sense since Emma and Snow were NOT trapped in FTL from May-October, but we do know that they got home in 209, which would mean after October given episode 205.
In other words: A and E need Henry and company to have not seen Frozen so the Timeline is being ONCE-i-fied to reflect that.
This is my best guess on where we actually are. Keb can do it justice if she ever see this.
Season One: October 2011-May 2012
Season Two (all of it) May 2012- Late winter 2012. When everyone climbs aboard the JR, they are wearing heavy coats and there have been obvious seasonal changes and holidays (see what I said above)
Season Three A: Only takes about one week altogether. So most likely very Late winter 2012
ONE FULL YEAR PASSES
Season Three B: Early Winter 2013-later winter 2013…with a possibility of being more spring like due to clothing and weather
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"August 15, 2014 at 1:46 pm #280200obisgirlParticipantOkay, that timeline seems a lot more plausible.
August 15, 2014 at 2:30 pm #280204PriceofMagicParticipantI’m glad the has Henry seen Frozen? question has been given an answer
Season One: October 2011-May 2012
Season Two (all of it) May 2012- Late winter 2012. When everyone climbs aboard the JR, they are wearing heavy coats and there have been obvious seasonal changes and holidays (see what I said above)
Season Three A: Only takes about one week altogether. So most likely very Late winter 2012
ONE FULL YEAR PASSES
Season Three B: Early Winter 2013-later winter 2013…with a possibility of being more spring like due to clothing and weather
Season 3B would have to be 2014 by that logic.
Emma’s birthday in Pilot is clearly October 2011. Skin Deep is clearly Valentine’s Day so February 2012. With the one year jump to make it 2013, so that Frozen doesn’t exist, Season 2 and 3A would both have to take place in 2012.
What if the Halloween decorations were the actual shop’s decorations not Granny’s? and the design team forgot to remove them?
All magic comes with a price!
Keeper of FelixAugust 15, 2014 at 2:37 pm #280206RumplesGirlKeymasterWhat if the Halloween decorations were the actual shop’s decorations not Granny’s? and the design team forgot to remove them?
Set design teams very rarely forget major things like town decor. If they forget anything it’s small things, not giant scarecrows and hay bales.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"August 15, 2014 at 2:38 pm #280207RumplesGirlKeymasterWhat if the Halloween decorations were the actual shop’s decorations not Granny’s? and the design team forgot to remove them?
Set design teams very rarely forget major things like town decor. If they forget anything it’s small things, not giant scarecrows and hay bales.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"August 15, 2014 at 4:53 pm #280221PriceofMagicParticipantSomeone forgot about the curtains in Lacey especially as that was an important scene in Skin Deep.
Thing is, The Doctor would’ve been filmed way before October. What if the decorations were for another fictional holiday in Storybrooke. We know they have Miner’s Day, may be they have Farmer’s Day hence the hay bales?
All magic comes with a price!
Keeper of FelixAugust 15, 2014 at 4:58 pm #280223RumplesGirlKeymasterSomeone forgot about the curtains in Lacey especially as that was an important scene in Skin Deep.
That is a continuity error that may or may not fit with the timeline, see Keb’s reasonings behind it. That is not very obvious set decoration that clearly spells out what month/season the characters and story are in.
Thing is, The Doctor would’ve been filmed way before October. What if the decorations were for another fictional holiday in Storybrooke. We know they have Miner’s Day, may be they have Farmer’s Day hence the hay bales?
So scarecrows, hay bales and pumpkins are for farmers and not halloween. And you’re making my argument for me. The set decor is a reflection of when the episode AIRED not when it was shot. It aired on Halloween. you’re supposed to be in “halloween/fall” mode for this episode.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"August 15, 2014 at 4:58 pm #280224RumplesGirlKeymasterSomeone forgot about the curtains in Lacey especially as that was an important scene in Skin Deep.
That is a continuity error that may or may not fit with the timeline, see Keb’s reasonings behind it. That is not very obvious set decoration that clearly spells out what month/season the characters and story are in.
Thing is, The Doctor would’ve been filmed way before October. What if the decorations were for another fictional holiday in Storybrooke. We know they have Miner’s Day, may be they have Farmer’s Day hence the hay bales?
So scarecrows, hay bales and pumpkins are for farmers and not halloween. And you’re making my argument for me. The set decor is a reflection of when the episode AIRED not when it was shot. It aired on Halloween. you’re supposed to be in “halloween/fall” mode for this episode.
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