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3. I think the whole OQ ship is already too messy and screwed up as it is without adding a further complication to the mix. I blame the writers on that one, if only they hadn’t made Regina Marian’s murderer. Emma is a possibility …
Well….technically….it’s just a cruel twist of fate Regina was Marian’s murderer which is no longer active, so I really wish people will forgive and forget just as Marian has….geez, Regina’s saved her life twice! … ! Emma can’t be a possibility because as far as we know now…she hasn’t slept with Hook. Robin and Regina’s pregnant storyline would be much more interesting considering they seem to have a “lost” history that we have not seen. Also due to the fact, the Evil Queen being pregnant would most likely cause her powers to be weakened a little and we have the Queens of Darkness coming, all whose she’s trifled against before, so there’s that issue. I think having Regina really not able to fight the Queens of Darkness as she did Peter Pan and Zelena will force Emma to the forefront because she has nobody who can just handle this one, because Regina’s magic is weak while pregnant, and Rumple is evil, so Emma will have to just come forward and be the Savior she was born to be.
I agree with what you say about Marian, WickedRegal. The time travel changed the past – and Regina has done everything she can to make up for it. Over and done with. And I think OQ is ultimately a beautiful story, albeit complicated.
About a possible pregnancy weakening Regina’s powers. Maybe. But it could do the opposite if following the logic of it being a true love’s child – thus boosting Regina’s light magic, which is what will work against the Queens of Darkness. And just realised. If Regina is pregnant it happened that night in the vault and since then she has already been zapped by Emma’s light magic and had a night long sword fight/fist fight with Snow. I think it’s safe to safe to say that she’s pretty tough. But I’m sure Emma will be an important factor. If she learns that Regina is pregnant, I actually think she’ll be very protective.
[adrotate group="5"]Well….technically….it’s just a cruel twist of fate Regina was Marian’s murderer which is no longer active, so I really wish people will forgive and forget just as Marian has….geez, Regina’s saved her life twice! If anything Marian now owes her one, though I guess we can count Marian choosing to step aside as payment to Regina, so they’re even!
I really strongly disagree with this. The whole sentiment that “Marian now owes Regina one” and that Marian stepping aside counts “as payment to Regina” is just plain wrong. Marian DOES NOT owe Regina anything. Regina should be making it up to Marian, and Regina saving her life twice does go some way towards that. HOWEVER, the fact that Regina originally murdered Marian still remains. Just because the characters can’t remember doesn’t mean the audience suffers from amnesia too. Regina still hooked up with the husband of one of her murder victims. Regina’s past actions shouldn’t be whitewashed and ignored just because otherwise it puts a real dampener on OQ.
It’s the writers’ fault on this one. They could’ve kept Regina out of Marian’s death, had Marian come back and still be wary of Regina because of her Evil Queen status and OQ wouldn’t be as screwed up.
Emma can’t be a possibility because as far as we know now…she hasn’t slept with Hook.
This is true, though they don’t say how soon the character will find out they are pregnant. They could have Emma sleep with Hook in 412 and find out she’s pregnant in the later episode. They could cover the 6 week time gap within the first episode and get it up to date by the end?
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Keeper of FelixWell….technically….it’s just a cruel twist of fate Regina was Marian’s murderer which is no longer active, so I really wish people will forgive and forget just as Marian has….geez, Regina’s saved her life twice! If anything Marian now owes her one, though I guess we can count Marian choosing to step aside as payment to Regina, so they’re even!
I really strongly disagree with this. The whole sentiment that “Marian now owes Regina one” and that Marian stepping aside counts “as payment to Regina” is just plain wrong. Marian DOES NOT owe Regina anything. Regina should be making it up to Marian, and Regina saving her life twice does go some way towards that. HOWEVER, the fact that Regina originally murdered Marian still remains. Just because the characters can’t remember doesn’t mean the audience suffers from amnesia too. Regina still hooked up with the husband of one of her murder victims. Regina’s past actions shouldn’t be whitewashed and ignored just because otherwise it puts a real dampener on OQ. It’s the writers’ fault on this one. They could’ve kept Regina out of Marian’s death, had Marian come back and still be wary of Regina because of her Evil Queen status and OQ wouldn’t be as screwed up.
Emma can’t be a possibility because as far as we know now…she hasn’t slept with Hook.
This is true, though they don’t say how soon the character will find out they are pregnant. They could have Emma sleep with Hook in 412 and find out she’s pregnant in the later episode. They could cover the 6 week time gap within the first episode and get it up to date by the end?
I. Ok…..first of all….Regina DIDN”T kill Marian because that was undone by the timeline! Marian NEVER died, therefore Regina is only now held accountable for imprisoning her and attempting to murder her. Regina did not know Marian was Robin Hood’s wife!
And the mere fact, Regina has saved Marian’s life twice stands against her almost killing her. Therefore, all should be forgiven and forgotten. She saved her twice and that’s what matters most!
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I. Ok…..first of all….Regina DIDN”T kill Marian because that was undone by the timeline! Marian NEVER died, therefore Regina is only now held accountable for imprisoning her and attempting to murder her. Regina did not know Marian was Robin Hood’s wife!
And the mere fact, Regina has saved Marian’s life twice stands against her almost killing her. Therefore, all should be forgiven and forgotten. She saved her twice and that’s what matters most!
Well Marian DID die originally, just like Snow DID save Charming originally on the troll bridge. Just because the timeline changed, doesn’t mean that the original events “never” happened.
Regina not knowing Marian was Robin’s wife opens a whole can of worms on it’s own. First, during 3B Robin was dating his wife’s murderer, though neither knew this at the time. Secondly, Regina destroyed a family and it didn’t bother her at all because Marian was too “vanilla” to remember then Regina usurped her victim’s place. Thirdly, and this one is more on Robin than Regina, in 4A Robin knowingly romantically pursued his wife’s murderer and strung both women along.
Marian did the right thing where she decided that if Robin wasn’t going to choose her, she didn’t want to be with him. That showed a lot more honour and self-respect than Robin showed in 4A
It could be argued that some things can’t ever be forgotten. Snow will never forget the fact that she never got to raise Emma, Emma won’t forget the fact she grew up in the system without any parents, they’ve forgiven Regina but they won’t forget it. Regina’s past misdeeds shouldn’t be whitewashed, just because she’s not going to be “punished” for them doesn’t mean she can’t feel some remorse for them.
All magic comes with a price!
Keeper of FelixIt could be argued that some things can’t ever be forgotten. Snow will never forget the fact that she never got to raise Emma, Emma won’t forget the fact she grew up in the system without any parents, they’ve forgiven Regina but they won’t forget it. Regina’s past misdeeds shouldn’t be whitewashed, just because she’s not going to be “punished” for them doesn’t mean she can’t feel some remorse for them.
I don’t think this is about whitewashing or forgetting anything. But rather about atonement and forgiveness within the frames of a fairy tale. Snow hasn’t forgotten the bad things Regina did to her, but she hasn’t forgotten that Regina started off saving her life either. Emma hasn’t forgotten that Regina has saved their arses numerous times since they met – including being willing to sacrifice herself (as in 2.22). Regina will never forget Daniels’s death as she is also acutely aware of the bad things she has done. Regina does feel a lot of remorse and it haunts her in a way that makes her sometimes want to give in to her old impulses because she sees no hope. It was initially the loss of love and hope and a heavy influence from Cora and Rumple that drove Regina mad. In all likelihood she withstood the pressure for longer than Snow would have done had the roles been reversed. Because from the beginning, Regina was actually more selfless than Snow – and Snow knows it. There’s nothing black and white about this. When and where does the scorecard even begin?
Can we not turn this thread into an atni-OQ/anti-Regina/anti-anything else? (this is not actually a request)
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"When will it be revealed which show the blind item is talking about?
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Keeper of FelixCan we not turn this thread into an atni-OQ/anti-Regina/anti-anything else? (this is not actually a request)
Completely agree. This is about the blind item.
When will it be revealed which show the blind item is talking about?
Good question. If we look at which shows were tagged in the original post – then we can start excluding as they return.
The shows listed are: ARROW CHICAGO FIRE HAWAII 5-0 NASHVILLE ONCE UPON A TIME REVENGE SCANDALTHE FOLLOWING THE MINDY PROJECT THE NEW GIRL
I think OUAT’s one of the last shows of the bunch to return, but am not sure.
But still. How else do we explain this face in the promo (see attachment)? 😉
The scene takes place in the Mayoral Office – it’s the same curtains and the birch wallpaper.
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