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January 22, 2014 at 1:43 pm #239552obisgirlParticipant
I don’t really trust them…..actually, I don’t trust them at all
I trust them that they know what they’re doing.
I mean, Gold has had the most beautiful redemption arc, but I think A/E enjoy seeing him freak out or be shattered, things like that. In other words, the easy way out
If you take Mary Margaret’s quote from season 1, episode 2 and sub ‘true love’ for ‘happy endings’ — “if [happy endings] were easy, we’d all have them.” Things are never easy on Once. If they were, this show would be so incredibly predictable to watch that most of us would probably lose interest and it would have been cancelled a long time ago. Things will always be difficult, if we didn’t have obstacles in the show, there would be no show.
I also disagree, that making things difficult is taking the easy out.
[adrotate group="5"]January 22, 2014 at 2:15 pm #239555betsypaige24Participantbetsypaige24 wrote: If it’s all about story, then it has to be Belle who dies. She has no connection to anyone other than Gold, her friends like Archie and Ariel are non-regulars, she gets generally very little screen time and no story…………and the biggie? Her death would IMO lead to Gold having psychic break, a nervous breakdown….He’d be emotionally shattered and deeply, deeply despairing.
I feel like Belle dying and how Gold/Rumple would handle that has already been done though (not that she’s not still a possibility for the death). We’ve already seen Rumple lose (or so he thought) Belle and he lived with that for the 28+ years. That wouldn’t be interesting to tell again, in my opinion. Same with Neal – we’ve already been through the “Neal is dead” thing and seen the fall out. So if it’s about the story then neither Belle nor Neal dying would be anything groundbreaking or unexpected. They’re both still possibilities though. I just feel like if that’s the route A&E are taking then it’s been done on the show before and not very clever lol.
LOL I don’t disagree………..and really, to me, Belle dying would be the death of hope. She is such a good person and let’s count all the ways she’s suffered: locked up for 30 years, shot/lost her memories, cursed, lost her TL. For Belle to die after all this would be……….are you kidding me? As a Rumbelle fan, they’ve been separated SO much, including now…….that good lord, to permanently separate them would be unbearably cruel.
I think honestly that Hook, Belle and Bae each have points for and against as to why they might or might not be the victim.
Obis, we can agree to disagree about A/E. I’ve lived through enough of their promises for Belle/Rumbelle screentime to be very wary of them. Adam, in particular, misleads. It’s just my opinion and I’m not asking anyone to agree.
I never said that TL or HEA should be easy, but sorry, 5 separations in less than 3 seasons is far too much angst. I’m not going to make this a Rumbelle thread, but for me, asking for them to be together and happy for more than 5 minutes…….asking for them to face life’s ups and downs together is not asking for TL ./HEA to be easy.
Also, I think having Gold freak out/break down/turn dark over Belle’s death is the easy way out because IMO they don’t want Gold to be good, to be this new, best version of himself; they like him when he’s dark. To me, that’s not who he really is and I’ would not find that interesting at all. The harder way, the more satisfying (for me) would be to see them together, facing obstacles.
January 22, 2014 at 2:52 pm #239564PanTheManParticipantMy money is on Hook. If you think about it, Hook has more in common with Rumple than Neal does. I’m predicting a hero’s death for Hook, which will open up the door for Swanfire, the endgame.
If swans (the animals) didn’t mate for life, I would lean more towards Emma and Hook, but something drastic would have to happen for that to be end game.
January 22, 2014 at 3:19 pm #239582obisgirlParticipantObis, we can agree to disagree about A/E. I’ve lived through enough of their promises for Belle/Rumbelle screentime to be very wary of them. Adam, in particular, misleads. It’s just my opinion and I’m not asking anyone to agree.
that’s fine.
January 23, 2014 at 3:43 am #239793PheeParticipantAnother reason that occurred to me why they won’t kill off Neal. The cycle of abandonment is a MAJOR theme for the Stilskins. Malcolm abandoned Rumple, Rumple abandoned Bae, and from the moment Neal discovered he was a father, his mentality has been: “We’re all messed up. What do you say we try to avoid that with him?” And since that moment, he’s been there for Henry in any way he possibly can be. This generation has succeeded at breaking the cycle of father/son abandonment that goes back (at least) two generations. They actually have a shot at sustaining a healthy, committed, father/son relationship. That is a major development for this family! I just cannot imagine them then turning around and killing off one half of this generation’s father/son pair. It would make no sense. It would negate the victory that was this family overcoming the breaking that abandonment cycle. It would make Neal’s efforts to be there for Henry null and void. I just can’t see any reason they would want to do that.
January 23, 2014 at 8:24 am #239841betsypaige24ParticipantPhee, that makes sense as well………..I just think that because it “can’t” be so many of the characters that we have to narrow it down to Hook, Bae or Belle. There are far more logical reasons to not kill the latter two than Hook, but unfortunately we can’t read Adam and Eddy’s minds. Of course, for storyline purposes, the death with the most impact would be Belle or Bae because of what it would do to Gold, but I would hate that. Just how much suffering must he endure, especially after sacrificing himself? When does his suffering end?
January 23, 2014 at 10:01 am #239858CindersParticipantAlmost every child we read about in fairy tales is missing a parent. It’s a tragic commonality throughout most tales. Now we have new fairy tale children being born. I see no reason why the death cannot be Snow or Charming. But in particular, Snow.
Snow has been the moral compass from the beginning of our story. When someone doubts themselves, Snow gives them confidence. When everything looks hopeless, Snow brings hope. When things look dark, Snow brings light. When all seems lost, Charming and Snow come together.
But what would happen if the moral compass, the one who always brings truth and hope, we’re gone? Or, if Charming dies. Would Snow still believe in happy endings? Would hope remain?
Has Snow already lived her happy ending, and it’s someone else’s turn?
January 23, 2014 at 10:44 am #239868PanTheManParticipantCan you imagine if Grumpy died?
I’m thinking Grumpy’s death could unite all the characters against any enemy. It would devastate quite a few characters if someone killed Grumpy. If it is grumpy, it has less shock value with the audience, but it takesjust as much of an emotion toll on viewers as losing any other character.
Grumpy is brave, loving, and loyal. He’s been around since the beginning. His death could be a catalyst for something huge. Not to mention, he’s totally bullheaded enough to do something in the heat of the moment that gets him killed. That’s why we love him.
Just a thought.
January 23, 2014 at 10:51 am #239873RumplesGirlKeymasterCan you imagine if Grumpy died?
🙁
But we do know it’s a series regular and Lee isn’t.
I’ve seen every theory under the sun and every single one of them makes sense.
Everyone dies! There. I solved it.
We aren’t going to know for a long time and we can keep coming up with theories and metas and scenarios but I think we’re going to drive ourselves nutty. (we already have) The death is going to happen. It’s going to suck. A lot. But maybe for now we sorta ease back a bit and let it unfold because it’s a long hiatus and this is only going to get worse the more we try to analyze EVERY SINGLE THING.
Less batty. More pretties.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"January 23, 2014 at 10:55 am #239875PanTheManParticipantpan14 wrote: Can you imagine if Grumpy died?
But we do know it’s a series regular and Lee isn’t. I’ve seen every theory under the sun and every single one of them makes sense. Everyone dies! There. I solved it. We aren’t going to know for a long time and we can keep coming up with theories and metas and scenarios but I think we’re going to drive ourselves nutty. (we already have) The death is going to happen. It’s going to suck. A lot. But maybe for now we sorta ease back a bit and let it unfold because it’s a long hiatus and this is only going to get worse the more we try to analyze EVERY SINGLE THING. Less batty. More pretties.
Agreed, RG. I’m so ready for March! Again, I guess my money is on Hook.
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