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This is how I see it playing out. –Frozen has already happened. Anna and Kristoph get married and want to start a family –Anna dies giving birth. Kristoph, heart broken, goes to live on his own. Elsa realizes she has lost her famly –Her powers become uncontrollable again and she begins turning the EF (where Arendelle is) into winter. Rumple, worried that this will upset his plans with the curse, traps her in the urn –She is released into SB –She and Regina bond over loosing sisters and their family
That’s what it sounds like to me.
And maybe, Oooh!
Here’s an interesting theory: Maybe Kristoff seeks out Rumplestiltskin’s help to trap Elsa in that urn. And Elsa’s revenge just isn’t against Rumple but Kristoff, whom she once loved but since he betrayed her too, he’s on her “frozen” hit list as well.
[adrotate group="5"]Hm.
for me: I am MAJORLY against the idea of Elsa having been in love with Kristoph. It sorta muddies the waters of Frozen. Elsa’s story (as Obsigirl said elsewhere) is her sister, not being in love with someone. To suddenly make her longing for her sisters man makes me cringe.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"Not too sure how I feel about them focusing on life after the movie. It makes Elsa’s moment in 322 strange if she’s still in “conceal it, don’t feel it” mode. If we’re past the movie, then she’s conquered her fears.
Well Elsa didn’t really do much. Besides walking out of the barn, all she did was send a blast of ice at the ground. That could be the equivalent of a human strerching when getting out of bed (she has been trapped in an urn for awhile). Even then, we don’t know the situation that led up to her getting in that urn. Elsa could very well be evil and angry by now. Who knows what happened after the events of the movie… (but we will find out :D)
"I could have the giant duck as my steed!" --Daniel Radcliffe
Keeper Of Tamara's Taser , Jafar's Staff, Kitsis’s Glasses , Ariel’s Tail, Dopey's Hat , Peter Pan’s Shadow, Outfit, & Pied Cloak,Red Queen's Castle, White Rabbit's Power To World Hop, Zelena's BroomStick, & ALL MAGICThis is how I see it playing out.
–Frozen has already happened. Anna and Kristoph get married and want to start a family
–Anna dies giving birth. Kristoph, heart broken, goes to live on his own. Elsa realizes she has lost her famly
–Her powers become uncontrollable again and she begins turning the EF (where Arendelle is) into winter. Rumple, worried that this will upset his plans with the curse, traps her in the urn
–She is released into SB
–She and Regina bond over loosing sisters and their family
Who is this mysterious baby?
"so there’s this new show….."
"there’s lesbians in it"I think that when Elsa last lost control over her powers, it caused the “harshest winter” that just so happened to be the same winter that Snow White was born in.
All magic comes with a price!
Keeper of FelixThis is how I see it playing out. –Frozen has already happened. Anna and Kristoph get married and want to start a family –Anna dies giving birth. Kristoph, heart broken, goes to live on his own. Elsa realizes she has lost her famly –Her powers become uncontrollable again and she begins turning the EF (where Arendelle is) into winter. Rumple, worried that this will upset his plans with the curse, traps her in the urn –She is released into SB –She and Regina bond over loosing sisters and their family
Yep I totally see that happening…but I really wish Anna is just missing instead of deceased….that’s freezing a lot of Frozen Hearts! But Regina and Elsa bonding…definitely can see that!
As for the Kristoff triangle…as much as I don’t want it, I can see them going that route! If there’s one way to tear two sisters apart, it’s put a man in between them!
And how awkward would it be that Snow White’s mother isn’t Eva, but Anna who died giving birth to her during her sister’s “Second Winter Episode”…..that could really send Elsa off edge!!! PLEASE DON”T DO THIS!
But can I please have this lovely little snowball flurrie loving man!!!
"If you go as far as you can see...you will then see enough to go even further." - Finn Balor
I think that when Elsa last lost control over her powers, it caused the “harshest winter” that just so happened to be the same winter that Snow White was born in.
That’s a very interesting connection. I love it!
I like the Elsa/Snow birth connection.
If they don’t give me Olaf, I will hunt them down and make them pay.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"I like the Elsa/Snow birth connection.
If they don’t give me Olaf, I will hunt them down and make them pay.
I wouldn’t like them to include Olaf. Can’t they just make a reference to him by giving Anna a husky named Olaf? Please?
"so there’s this new show….."
"there’s lesbians in it"ELSA | The Queen of Arendelle, this late-20s/early-30s beauty long struggled to control her “chilling” powers and even unleashed upon her town an eternal winter during her coronation. Ultimately, she realized that the key to controlling her powers is love — namely, her bond with sister Anna — and now she is aware of the threat she poses if she were to lose control of her magic again (in which instance Vancouver weather could rival Winnipeg’s!)
ANNA | Elsa’s slightly younger sister is a fun-loving, fearless optimist who often gets herself into situations where she is in over her head, yet is able to triumph due to her resourcefulness and can-do spirit. She values her relationship with her sister above all else.
KRISTOFF | This handsome,OnceUponaTime_Frozen_Kristoff hearty, salt-of-the-earth ice cutter spent most of his life alone (unless you count his reindeer). He has a sometimes-gruff demeanor that can hide his deep love for Anna and her sister Elsa. When we first meet Kristoff on Once, he is adjusting to life at the castle — including sleeping indoors for the first time in his life.
http://tvline.com/2014/06/07/once-upon-a-time-season-4-casting-frozen-elsa-anna-kristoff/
Elsa age late-20s/early-30s -, well, said so. Know some people speculated her to be younger, because she came just of age in the movie, but that would have not fitted that well to the cast of OUaT. Besides I was left with the impression just by the short scene they had at the end of the final, that we had a full grown up woman there with some sense of her body. Sorry, kids, old hag talking 😉 No, seriously, it is harder to appear of a different age than some people might think, make-up can do only that much, there is a lot about body language. It was noticeable that Aurora, Sarah Bolger is younger than the others, early twenties. Most of the regular cast are in their early to mid thirties, and Elsa is hardly to be meant to be a teenage princess, she has to stand up to the main characters as far as we can guess. So, probably not the Fanning sisters.
They should keep the importance of the sister relation for the characters, it’s part of the quintessence of the characters.
Great if this Ana(-stasia) thing is now off the table, didn’t make to me any sense anyway.
And if anyone wants more markers for speculations about casting: for Disney park look-alikes of Elsa and Anna specification are 5’3 to 5’7 (160-170 cm) with slender build. Elsa is slightly taller than Anna,. Kristoff is about a head taller than Anna in the movie. Not that this has to be the same in OUaT though. Lana Parrilla, Ginnifer Goodwin and Jennifer Morrison are about the same height, about 5’5, Robert Carlyle 5’7 Colin O’Donough 5’10, Josh Dallas 6’0, just to have something to compare with.
Hm.
for me: I am MAJORLY against the idea of Elsa having been in love with Kristoph. It sorta muddies the waters of Frozen. Elsa’s story (as Obsigirl said elsewhere) is her sister, not being in love with someone. To suddenly make her longing for her sisters man makes me cringe.
Agreed, no love triangle, no sister rivalry. We just had sister rivalry, jealousy. Supportive family is something rather rare in OUaT.
I wouldn’t mind if someone in Storybrooke would catch Elsa’s eye though (preferred queer).
Elsa seemed to have her powers quite well under control after she escaped the urn, she didn’t freeze the whole barn, it looked not the least bit out of control to me. Just saying.
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