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@The Watcher – I can see that. But that’s more of a feature of the fandom (and its rabid shipping culture) than the nature of the narrative, or of TV shows more generally. Take BTVS for example — the Buffy/Finn relationship was allowed to run its course, in all its complexities, without needing a death to end it.
As to wanting RH to be off the show, by all accounts it seems that they’ve been meaning to do this for a bit, as others here have said. If so, then they certainly had the opportunity to plan ahead, without having to produce more narratively lazy melodrama. And if the problem is that they’re afraid of the fandom’s reaction, and hence are trying to make the actor’s exit bullet proof, then I have zero sympathy. A&E largely cultivated this fandom to be crazier than an outhouse rat. It’s just too bad that this happens at the expense of the actors, and the quality of the story.
[adrotate group="5"]If they don’t kill him, it leaves the possibility open that he’ll return. If the writers don’t want RH on the show anymore for whatever reason, I can see how they see killing him as the most reasonable option to keep having to avoid saying “he’s not coming back” over and over again. Not that that worked with Neal. But eh.
Personally, I see killing off Robin in a permanent capacity even crueler for three main reasons: 1) Outlaw Queen has had so much build up and development for 3 Seasons. We also had a huge amount of drama with the couple in Season 4 in particular. So Regina has to suffer losing her true love yet again, despite how far she’s come? We as viewers would have gone through all of Outlaw Queen’s emotional rollercoaster for nothing? 2) Robin Hood has two little kids, with one of them being an infant. You kill off Robin, and Roland is completely an orphan with none of his birth parents around anymore. As for Baby Pistachio, her remaining birth parent would be Zelena… 3) All of 5B is about bringing Hook back from the dead, so they’re going to tell us that Robin’s death has to stick in the same arc? The more the show finds loopholes around “dead is dead”, the harder it is to convince the viewers when they really want us to believe it for certain characters. That’s why there are some Neal fans out there who continue to not entirely rule out the possibility, even when the show continues to remind us “he’s not coming back” at least once per Season. In Season 3 it was Emma saying “you can’t prevent his death from happening in the past, because he died a hero saving all of us. You can’t take that away from him.” In Season 4 it was the Apprentice saying “he died in the real world, and that can never be undone.” In Season 5, it’s Neal himself telling us “I’m not in the Underworld. I’m in a better place, and I’m happy there.”
This!
If they don’t kill him, it leaves the possibility open that he’ll return. If the writers don’t want RH on the show anymore for whatever reason, I can see how they see killing him as the most reasonable option to keep having to avoid saying “he’s not coming back” over and over again. Not that that worked with Neal. But eh.
Personally, I see killing off Robin in a permanent capacity even crueler for three main reasons:
1) Outlaw Queen has had so much build up and development for 3 Seasons. We also had a huge amount of drama with the couple in Season 4 in particular. So Regina has to suffer losing her true love yet again, despite how far she’s come? We as viewers would have gone through all of Outlaw Queen’s emotional rollercoaster for nothing?
2) Robin Hood has two little kids, with one of them being an infant. You kill off Robin, and Roland is completely an orphan with none of his birth parents around anymore. As for Baby Pistachio, her remaining birth parent would be Zelena…
3) All of 5B is about bringing Hook back from the dead, so they’re going to tell us that Robin’s death has to stick in the same arc? The more the show finds loopholes around “dead is dead”, the harder it is to convince the viewers when they really want us to believe it for certain characters. That’s why there are some Neal fans out there who continue to not entirely rule out the possibility, even when the show continues to remind us “he’s not coming back” at least once per Season. In Season 3 it was Emma saying “you can’t prevent his death from happening in the past, because he died a hero saving all of us. You can’t take that away from him.” In Season 4 it was the Apprentice saying “he died in the real world, and that can never be undone.” In Season 5, it’s Neal himself telling us “I’m not in the Underworld. I’m in a better place, and I’m happy there.”
Maybe not just Robin, Killian too. After all, Neal warned Emma that what she planned to do will not end well. Remember? That sounds like a tease and a hint. We might lose two people.
Nick, i want Hook to die too, but there is no chance of that happening. Someone else might die, but it is going to be like Mulan or Dorthy or Arthur. It isn’t going to be Hook.
Nick, i want Hook to die too, but there is no chance of that happening. Someone else might die, but it is going to be like Mulan or Dorthy or Arthur. It isn’t going to be Hook.
I am not saying I want him to die, I am just saying like “Brace yourselves lads”. I am also just being prepared for the unexpected. After all whatever happens, the makers kind of informed that there will be Death for one or more characters. And right now, we have no appearances of Mulan, Dorothy and Arthur. So clearly their is highly unlikely. So far Robin’s presumed death seems to be appearing in ep 21 or 22. And this blind item said that this death would be for the finale (and it doesn’t sound like Robin).
I could see Hades taking Robin just to spite the heroes because Robin was supposed to die in 5A. I could see Robin maybe accepting this because he is a man of “honour” and him not dying would have consequences- he couldn’t live with himself if he knew someone else had to take his place etc etc. HOWEVER the problem with this if it is indeed Robin has to die because he was supposed to die in 5A is that HOOK was supposed to die in 5A from the excalibor cut, and was killed again as the DO so there is no fairness in Robin dying because he was supposed to die yet Hook living even though he was in the same boat as Robin.
All magic comes with a price!
Keeper of FelixI’ve been thinking that if Robin “dies” in episode 21 “Last Rites” it may very well be linked to what happened in “The Price” and going back to that, well, Robin jumped straight into a sword protecting Regina. So if that has something to do with Robin’s demise, Regina will be thoroughly heartbroken. Perhaps, Hades will claim Robin’s life to have the price paid. Regina will want to give up her life to save Robin once again, but of course, Robin won’t let her. If we toy with the idea that Robin may not be completely dead, perhaps his fate will be linked to Regina. A&E just said that the road to redemption is long and that forgiveness really has to be earned, so maybe Regina now has to spend all her time on that little project to have Robin one day (maybe not for a while) rise from an otherwise eternal sleep – or at least something like that.
I say this, because it really does not make sense to kill off Robin for good (MatthewPaul already wrote why).
I could see Hades taking Robin just to spite the heroes because Robin was supposed to die in 5A. I could see Robin maybe accepting this because he is a man of “honour” and him not dying would have consequences- he couldn’t live with himself if he knew someone else had to take his place etc etc. HOWEVER the problem with this if it is indeed Robin has to die because he was supposed to die in 5A is that HOOK was supposed to die in 5A from the excalibor cut, and was killed again as the DO so there is no fairness in Robin dying because he was supposed to die yet Hook living even though he was in the same boat as Robin.
THIS & EVERYTHING MATTHEW SAID!
And Queen Lana has spoken, it is officially the end of that horrid rumor.
I have no idea what this is but I'm just now seeing it. Whatever this is, none of it is true. Sorry and thank you. pic.twitter.com/B2qVqt4ETe
— Lana Parrilla (@LanaParrilla) March 17, 2016
"If you go as far as you can see...you will then see enough to go even further." - Finn Balor
*reads long rant about this rumor in the above text*
That’s the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard. Fandom, check yourself plz.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"I could see Hades taking Robin just to spite the heroes because Robin was supposed to die in 5A. I could see Robin maybe accepting this because he is a man of “honour” and him not dying would have consequences- he couldn’t live with himself if he knew someone else had to take his place etc etc. HOWEVER the problem with this if it is indeed Robin has to die because he was supposed to die in 5A is that HOOK was supposed to die in 5A from the excalibor cut, and was killed again as the DO so there is no fairness in Robin dying because he was supposed to die yet Hook living even though he was in the same boat as Robin.
THIS & EVERYTHING MATTHEW SAID!
And Queen Lana has spoken, it is officially the end of that horrid rumor.
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<script async=”” src=”//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js” charset=”utf-8″></script>This is one of the reasons why I don’t trust or believe a word what any fandoms say. Because whatever they believe or say, it is not true. The are absolute liars.
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